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	<title>Comments on: The Death of the Five-Year Plan</title>
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		<title>By: Vision and Strategy Church Trends for 2011 and Beyond &#171; willowcreeksa</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-174324</link>
		<dc:creator>Vision and Strategy Church Trends for 2011 and Beyond &#171; willowcreeksa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are excellent posts, but on the surface they contradict. This year Craig Groeschel posted on the Death of the 5 Year Plan, yet vision mavens like Jim Collins still talk about 20-year BHAGs (Big Hairy Audacious Goals). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are excellent posts, but on the surface they contradict. This year Craig Groeschel posted on the Death of the 5 Year Plan, yet vision mavens like Jim Collins still talk about 20-year BHAGs (Big Hairy Audacious Goals). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Len Wilson</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-173133</link>
		<dc:creator>Len Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 20:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read a verse the other morning that fits both my life and your post, Craig:

We make plans, but God has the last word. - Proverbs 16:1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read a verse the other morning that fits both my life and your post, Craig:</p>
<p>We make plans, but God has the last word. - Proverbs 16:1</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Christopher A. Seward Sr.</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-172654</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev. Christopher A. Seward Sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 20:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what opponents of a 3-year plan (today, a 3-year plan is more reasonable than a 5-year plan) is that these plans are not meant to sit static for the 3-year period.  They should be living documents that change.  The long term goals are meant to be a guide, not a chiseled-in-stone contract.  A plan should be updated at the least yearly.  Anyone who has has a long-term plan and tried to stick to it throughout its term knows that the plan will become obsolete rather quickly.  However, much like taking a trip in your car to a place you've never been before without a map, without a plan, your visions will fail.
Humbly In His Service</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what opponents of a 3-year plan (today, a 3-year plan is more reasonable than a 5-year plan) is that these plans are not meant to sit static for the 3-year period.  They should be living documents that change.  The long term goals are meant to be a guide, not a chiseled-in-stone contract.  A plan should be updated at the least yearly.  Anyone who has has a long-term plan and tried to stick to it throughout its term knows that the plan will become obsolete rather quickly.  However, much like taking a trip in your car to a place you&#8217;ve never been before without a map, without a plan, your visions will fail.<br />
Humbly In His Service</p>
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		<title>By: Eleven Church Trends for 2011 &#124; Church Sports Outreach &#124; Sports Ministry &#124; Recreation Ministry</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-172646</link>
		<dc:creator>Eleven Church Trends for 2011 &#124; Church Sports Outreach &#124; Sports Ministry &#124; Recreation Ministry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of opinion about what good vision and strategy look likeIn 2010, Craig Groeschel posted on the Death of the 5 Year Plan, yet vision mavens like Jim Collins still talk about 20-year BHAGs (Big Hairy Audacious Goals). To [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of opinion about what good vision and strategy look likeIn 2010, Craig Groeschel posted on the Death of the 5 Year Plan, yet vision mavens like Jim Collins still talk about 20-year BHAGs (Big Hairy Audacious Goals). To [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TEN spotlight &#187; Eleven Trends for 2011</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-172642</link>
		<dc:creator>TEN spotlight &#187; Eleven Trends for 2011</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2010, Craig Groeschel posted on the Death of the 5 Year Plan, yet vision mavens like Jim Collins still talk about 20-year BHAGs (Big Hairy Audacious Goals). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2010, Craig Groeschel posted on the Death of the 5 Year Plan, yet vision mavens like Jim Collins still talk about 20-year BHAGs (Big Hairy Audacious Goals). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Beck</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-172641</link>
		<dc:creator>David Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this post! I am currently preaching a series on being a Fit and Ready church. I think I have given up trying to construct a vision from the conventional methods. It felt contrived and man-made (probably because it was). I have gravitated toward readiness, prayer, and listening for the story God seems to be wanting to tell through our church. Having you give voice to similar convictions helps me feel more "okay" with the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this post! I am currently preaching a series on being a Fit and Ready church. I think I have given up trying to construct a vision from the conventional methods. It felt contrived and man-made (probably because it was). I have gravitated toward readiness, prayer, and listening for the story God seems to be wanting to tell through our church. Having you give voice to similar convictions helps me feel more &#8220;okay&#8221; with the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Casey</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-172627</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 00:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plan, but evaluate the plan and change when necessary. This gives flexibilty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plan, but evaluate the plan and change when necessary. This gives flexibilty.</p>
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		<title>By: Errol Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-172625</link>
		<dc:creator>Errol Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I may say two things in response to the rhetoric for or against planning here we go. 
1.I do not believe that planning limits the work of the Holy Spirit

2.I do believe that we must plan because the Holy Spirit does not inspire ignorance.

Having said that I would agree that we must plan because as the old adage goes "If we fail to plan we plan to fail."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I may say two things in response to the rhetoric for or against planning here we go.<br />
1.I do not believe that planning limits the work of the Holy Spirit</p>
<p>2.I do believe that we must plan because the Holy Spirit does not inspire ignorance.</p>
<p>Having said that I would agree that we must plan because as the old adage goes &#8220;If we fail to plan we plan to fail.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Vision and Strategy Church Trends for 2011 and Beyond &#8211; Will Mancini</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-172596</link>
		<dc:creator>Vision and Strategy Church Trends for 2011 and Beyond &#8211; Will Mancini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 04:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are excellent posts, but on the surface they contradict. This year Craig Groeschel posted on the Death of the 5 Year Plan, yet vision mavens like Jim Collins still talk about 20-year BHAGs (Big Hairy Audacious Goals). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are excellent posts, but on the surface they contradict. This year Craig Groeschel posted on the Death of the 5 Year Plan, yet vision mavens like Jim Collins still talk about 20-year BHAGs (Big Hairy Audacious Goals). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Worley (LCTV:pORtland-Network Church Pastor)</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-172480</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Worley (LCTV:pORtland-Network Church Pastor)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do I effectively plan for tomorrow's opportunities?  We are currently meeting in an old (120 yr. old) traditional church and are looking to move to several other venues.  Where to start, where to start?  The vision: Develop 3-5 Network Churches in teh metro and then, Lord willing, combine for LifeChurch.tv:pORtland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do I effectively plan for tomorrow&#8217;s opportunities?  We are currently meeting in an old (120 yr. old) traditional church and are looking to move to several other venues.  Where to start, where to start?  The vision: Develop 3-5 Network Churches in teh metro and then, Lord willing, combine for LifeChurch.tv:pORtland</p>
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		<title>By: Some of my recent finds&#8230; &#124; ..:lindsey clift:..</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-172052</link>
		<dc:creator>Some of my recent finds&#8230; &#124; ..:lindsey clift:..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/" rel="nofollow">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Resurrection Online&#8217;s Five Year Plan &#171; Thoughts of Resurrection</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-171943</link>
		<dc:creator>Resurrection Online&#8217;s Five Year Plan &#171; Thoughts of Resurrection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was inspired by Craig Groeschel&#8216;s post, The Death of the Five-Year Plan. &#8220;Instead of planning for specific buildings, campuses, staff roles, and outreach, I’m [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was inspired by Craig Groeschel&#8216;s post, The Death of the Five-Year Plan. &#8220;Instead of planning for specific buildings, campuses, staff roles, and outreach, I’m [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Five Horizons of Leadership and How to Use Them &#8211; Will Mancini</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-171916</link>
		<dc:creator>The Five Horizons of Leadership and How to Use Them &#8211; Will Mancini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] range is more about fantasizing that planning. (See Craig Groeshel&#8217;s little post entitled, Death of the Five-year Plan.) Nevertheless, the far-far-away horizon may impact decisions related to life-stage decisions, major [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] range is more about fantasizing that planning. (See Craig Groeshel&#8217;s little post entitled, Death of the Five-year Plan.) Nevertheless, the far-far-away horizon may impact decisions related to life-stage decisions, major [...]</p>
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		<title>By: markriddle</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-171805</link>
		<dc:creator>markriddle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love this Craig. mission with a detailed plan tends to undermine engagement from others (which is ironic because part of the plan often involves more engagement from people).  But when we depend on God and work less from a top down model of ministry, it allows for collaboration of the very people we hope would engage because then they share the responsibility (as a disciple) to help shape the future with you. Im guessing you're finding that it means that we must lead differently, shifting more problem solving, and possibility to the people who live out their faith together. thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love this Craig. mission with a detailed plan tends to undermine engagement from others (which is ironic because part of the plan often involves more engagement from people).  But when we depend on God and work less from a top down model of ministry, it allows for collaboration of the very people we hope would engage because then they share the responsibility (as a disciple) to help shape the future with you. Im guessing you&#8217;re finding that it means that we must lead differently, shifting more problem solving, and possibility to the people who live out their faith together. thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Hit List #28 &#171; :: VFAM.ORG ::</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-2/#comment-171803</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Hit List #28 &#171; :: VFAM.ORG ::</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] "Detours to the destination" - loved this from Steven Furtick. - Craig Groeschel on planning - wow, never thought to re-shift thinking this way. - Challenging post from Tim Stevens on 'failing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Detours to the destination&#8221; - loved this from Steven Furtick. - Craig Groeschel on planning - wow, never thought to re-shift thinking this way. - Challenging post from Tim Stevens on &#8216;failing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Seay</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-171794</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Seay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine the impact Christians could have on the world if we lived our lives this way.  

All too often we tell God our plans and ask for his blessing.  More often than not, we go ahead with our plans even if it isn't God's will.  We put the comfort and security of "plans" in front of God.  

Exodus 20:3 You shall put no other gods before me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine the impact Christians could have on the world if we lived our lives this way.  </p>
<p>All too often we tell God our plans and ask for his blessing.  More often than not, we go ahead with our plans even if it isn&#8217;t God&#8217;s will.  We put the comfort and security of &#8220;plans&#8221; in front of God.  </p>
<p>Exodus 20:3 You shall put no other gods before me.</p>
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		<title>By: D Aaron Sherron</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-171789</link>
		<dc:creator>D Aaron Sherron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's true. Plans can restrict you from the bigger picture. Our team just looks 18-24 months ahead, focusing on our vision, mission and core values. Thank God for innovative ministries that make us think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true. Plans can restrict you from the bigger picture. Our team just looks 18-24 months ahead, focusing on our vision, mission and core values. Thank God for innovative ministries that make us think!</p>
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		<title>By: kevin sutherland</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-171788</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin sutherland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plans are good to get us moving but they are just that plans.i used to be in the building contacting business as any carpenter will tell you what is on paper doesn't always translate into the field. Jesus is the master of redirect we are to plan but i have found that we must remain fluid and open to the changes the Holy Spirit wants to bring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plans are good to get us moving but they are just that plans.i used to be in the building contacting business as any carpenter will tell you what is on paper doesn&#8217;t always translate into the field. Jesus is the master of redirect we are to plan but i have found that we must remain fluid and open to the changes the Holy Spirit wants to bring.</p>
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		<title>By: Katarine Jordão</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-171786</link>
		<dc:creator>Katarine Jordão</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVED it!!! 
It's so amazing the FREEDOM we have living in the God's DEPENDENCE!!

I have translated your text to put in my blog in Portuguese, ok?

God keep blessing you so much!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVED it!!!<br />
It&#8217;s so amazing the FREEDOM we have living in the God&#8217;s DEPENDENCE!!</p>
<p>I have translated your text to put in my blog in Portuguese, ok?</p>
<p>God keep blessing you so much!!</p>
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		<title>By: Planning to be Prepared &#171; 3&#8230;2&#8230;1&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/08/16/the-death-of-the-five-year-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-171773</link>
		<dc:creator>Planning to be Prepared &#171; 3&#8230;2&#8230;1&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to be&#160;Prepared  Pastor Craig Groeschel posted a blog a couple days back titled, &#8220;The Death of the 5 Year Plan.&#8221; The premise of it is: planning to be prepared, rather than simply preparing for what you&#8217;ve [...]</description>
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