<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Don’t Fight Back</title>
	<atom:link href="http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/</link>
	<description>a leadership, technology, and innovation blog for pastors and church leaders</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 06:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Gerald Malloy</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168486</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Malloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168486</guid>
		<description>I needed this today Craig. Thank you for these words. I am new at my church and sometimes I feel the need to defend myself and ministry. It is discouraging at times, but I know God has called and equipped. Sometimes it is refreshing to hear these words from others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I needed this today Craig. Thank you for these words. I am new at my church and sometimes I feel the need to defend myself and ministry. It is discouraging at times, but I know God has called and equipped. Sometimes it is refreshing to hear these words from others.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Adam Jones</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168418</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168418</guid>
		<description>I struggle with the desire to look and feel like a "winner" all the time.  Way too often, my self-confidence is subconsciously based upon how many people are happy with what I'm doing.  I tend to initially react to people questioning my ministry by assuming that they're attacking it and then I feel the need to best them in a duel of words.  After years of ministry and years of reacting the wrong way, I feel like God is finally getting through my thick skull and leading me to react in better ways.  I love Scott's question...  "If your vision has the backing of God, why are you so threatened by my question?"  Sometimes, people question something because they simply want to understand it better so they can be more supportive.

(It's still hard to bite my tongue sometimes though...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I struggle with the desire to look and feel like a &#8220;winner&#8221; all the time.  Way too often, my self-confidence is subconsciously based upon how many people are happy with what I&#8217;m doing.  I tend to initially react to people questioning my ministry by assuming that they&#8217;re attacking it and then I feel the need to best them in a duel of words.  After years of ministry and years of reacting the wrong way, I feel like God is finally getting through my thick skull and leading me to react in better ways.  I love Scott&#8217;s question&#8230;  &#8220;If your vision has the backing of God, why are you so threatened by my question?&#8221;  Sometimes, people question something because they simply want to understand it better so they can be more supportive.</p>
<p>(It&#8217;s still hard to bite my tongue sometimes though&#8230;)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Craig Groeschel</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168416</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Groeschel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168416</guid>
		<description>Scott and "Me" raised good points. Pastors can be overly defensive. (I know I have been at times.) Yesterday's post might help soften some of our defensiveness and allow people to ask sincere questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott and &#8220;Me&#8221; raised good points. Pastors can be overly defensive. (I know I have been at times.) Yesterday&#8217;s post might help soften some of our defensiveness and allow people to ask sincere questions.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168415</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168415</guid>
		<description>I truly wish leaders would understand that asking a question or expressing a differing opinion is not criticizing. If your vision so has the backing of God, why are you so threatened by my question? And the intimidation that comes with addressing me from the pulpit with your allies Amen-ing your every word is not a good look for your ministry. A church where the pastor comes off as a dictator is not a healthy church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly wish leaders would understand that asking a question or expressing a differing opinion is not criticizing. If your vision so has the backing of God, why are you so threatened by my question? And the intimidation that comes with addressing me from the pulpit with your allies Amen-ing your every word is not a good look for your ministry. A church where the pastor comes off as a dictator is not a healthy church.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ken Eastburn</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168413</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Eastburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168413</guid>
		<description>On the other hand, refusing to "defend" may also result in a church continuing in error and being permitted to hide behind a spiritual-sounding, "This is what God has called me to."

Not saying lifechurch.tv has done this, but I'm beginning to see unhealthy pastors and churches being able to hide behind these otherwise good admonitions.

We cannot assume that every church is healthy enough to be able to not defend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, refusing to &#8220;defend&#8221; may also result in a church continuing in error and being permitted to hide behind a spiritual-sounding, &#8220;This is what God has called me to.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not saying lifechurch.tv has done this, but I&#8217;m beginning to see unhealthy pastors and churches being able to hide behind these otherwise good admonitions.</p>
<p>We cannot assume that every church is healthy enough to be able to not defend.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Cliff Holmes</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168412</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168412</guid>
		<description>I really don't understand why some Christians criticize other ministries. What sense does that make? We all have the same goal of spreading the Gospel. I am happy when I see ministries innovate and do things differently.

There is nothing wrong with a pastor that "pushes play" on Sunday. There are tons of other pastoral duties that are still being done. Pastoral ministry goes far beyond Sunday morning. 

There is no point in fighting back. God's opinion is the only one that matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t understand why some Christians criticize other ministries. What sense does that make? We all have the same goal of spreading the Gospel. I am happy when I see ministries innovate and do things differently.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong with a pastor that &#8220;pushes play&#8221; on Sunday. There are tons of other pastoral duties that are still being done. Pastoral ministry goes far beyond Sunday morning. </p>
<p>There is no point in fighting back. God&#8217;s opinion is the only one that matters.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ME</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168411</link>
		<dc:creator>ME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 19:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168411</guid>
		<description>As a church member who has had questions that are misinterpreted as criticism, a pastor answering them defensively from the pulpit sends a very negative message - primarily that this is not a place where people can simply ask questions and share differences in private. It also is intimidating and comes off as threatening - like you're trying to convince me that you have all these people behind you and I dare not express any concern about anything. I need a pastor, not a dictator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a church member who has had questions that are misinterpreted as criticism, a pastor answering them defensively from the pulpit sends a very negative message - primarily that this is not a place where people can simply ask questions and share differences in private. It also is intimidating and comes off as threatening - like you&#8217;re trying to convince me that you have all these people behind you and I dare not express any concern about anything. I need a pastor, not a dictator.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: brian kruckenberg</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168410</link>
		<dc:creator>brian kruckenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168410</guid>
		<description>Recently God gave me about 5-6 chances to keep my mouth shut about ministry criticism...I finally caught on at about chance 5. 

Jesus set the example for us...He was without sin yet in the face of His accusers remained silent and confident in His calling. A man who can zip it in the face of undue attack is a humble, secure and powerful man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently God gave me about 5-6 chances to keep my mouth shut about ministry criticism&#8230;I finally caught on at about chance 5. </p>
<p>Jesus set the example for us&#8230;He was without sin yet in the face of His accusers remained silent and confident in His calling. A man who can zip it in the face of undue attack is a humble, secure and powerful man.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168409</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168409</guid>
		<description>If someone is committed to the vision of what you believe God has called you to do, seeking God, bringing the unchurched and faithful in their giving, I will listen to their criticism or complaint. If they do not demonstrate the above qualities, I tend not to pay attention. If they are off God's mission for their own lives, I believe they have forfeited their right to be heard. Each case is taken individually, but these are the guidelines I follow and they have served me well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone is committed to the vision of what you believe God has called you to do, seeking God, bringing the unchurched and faithful in their giving, I will listen to their criticism or complaint. If they do not demonstrate the above qualities, I tend not to pay attention. If they are off God&#8217;s mission for their own lives, I believe they have forfeited their right to be heard. Each case is taken individually, but these are the guidelines I follow and they have served me well.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brandon Duff</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168408</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Duff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168408</guid>
		<description>I have a deep passion for justice that too often takes hold of me and causes me to pursue justice in areas that are just not important. I have to keep this in check. I have to prayerfully give over the words, the actions and the wrongful accusations of others to God. I need God to help me stay focused on the "one thing".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a deep passion for justice that too often takes hold of me and causes me to pursue justice in areas that are just not important. I have to keep this in check. I have to prayerfully give over the words, the actions and the wrongful accusations of others to God. I need God to help me stay focused on the &#8220;one thing&#8221;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dusty Takle</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168407</link>
		<dc:creator>Dusty Takle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168407</guid>
		<description>I've watched my dad in his 30+ years in ministry be criticized and rarely ever defend his position or ministry.  He recently gave me an older book "A Tale of Three Kings" to read to help me with my own desire to return spears.  I think it's a must read for leaders. Gene Edwards explains that David’s torture by Saul occurred in his pre-king days.  But, he didn’t know he would be king one day.  Not at this time.  Edwards writes, “These were David’s darkest hours. We know them as his pre-king days, but he didn’t.  He may have assumed this was his lot forever.”

It wasn't his lot. I've learned a lot from this story in how I handle criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve watched my dad in his 30+ years in ministry be criticized and rarely ever defend his position or ministry.  He recently gave me an older book &#8220;A Tale of Three Kings&#8221; to read to help me with my own desire to return spears.  I think it&#8217;s a must read for leaders. Gene Edwards explains that David’s torture by Saul occurred in his pre-king days.  But, he didn’t know he would be king one day.  Not at this time.  Edwards writes, “These were David’s darkest hours. We know them as his pre-king days, but he didn’t.  He may have assumed this was his lot forever.”</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t his lot. I&#8217;ve learned a lot from this story in how I handle criticism.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Richard Phillips @TallyRich</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168406</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Phillips @TallyRich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168406</guid>
		<description>Having spent many years in a mainline demonination I have seen how defensiveness becomes such a habit. Rather than truly building God's kingdom we easily find ourselves defending our position and actions.

Great perspective - let's know God, know His plans and march forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having spent many years in a mainline demonination I have seen how defensiveness becomes such a habit. Rather than truly building God&#8217;s kingdom we easily find ourselves defending our position and actions.</p>
<p>Great perspective - let&#8217;s know God, know His plans and march forward.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bill (cycleguy)</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168405</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill (cycleguy)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168405</guid>
		<description>First reaction: fight back. Second reaction: (if the first doesn't work) fight back.  Third reaction: (if the first two don't work) fight some more.  Immaturity at its finest and guilty as charged.  Until you realize that beating a dead horse isn't going to make it more dead and certainly won't bring it to life. Best reaction: do what you have suggested and then consider what Jesus did.  Good thoughts Craig.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First reaction: fight back. Second reaction: (if the first doesn&#8217;t work) fight back.  Third reaction: (if the first two don&#8217;t work) fight some more.  Immaturity at its finest and guilty as charged.  Until you realize that beating a dead horse isn&#8217;t going to make it more dead and certainly won&#8217;t bring it to life. Best reaction: do what you have suggested and then consider what Jesus did.  Good thoughts Craig.  Thanks.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jesiah</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168402</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168402</guid>
		<description>Wow Jerris that's really insperational... It's amazing that you can handle critizism in such a great way... Thanks Craig for that Wisdom I hope you keep talking about this topic all week!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Jerris that&#8217;s really insperational&#8230; It&#8217;s amazing that you can handle critizism in such a great way&#8230; Thanks Craig for that Wisdom I hope you keep talking about this topic all week!!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168400</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168400</guid>
		<description>I can totally relate.  About two years ago we took over the children's department at our church.  We felt like God wanted more than the sterotypical coloring pictures and singing "Pharoah, Pharoah."  That stuff is great, but we believed that God wanted us to start a children's worship serice.  It was a trying time and we had to deal with a lot of criticism because it was "different" from what had been done for the past 50 years.  I have to be honest.  At first it really bothered us, but then as we began to seek God, we believed that we were doing what He wanted us to do. I hope this offers encouragement to those who are facing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can totally relate.  About two years ago we took over the children&#8217;s department at our church.  We felt like God wanted more than the sterotypical coloring pictures and singing &#8220;Pharoah, Pharoah.&#8221;  That stuff is great, but we believed that God wanted us to start a children&#8217;s worship serice.  It was a trying time and we had to deal with a lot of criticism because it was &#8220;different&#8221; from what had been done for the past 50 years.  I have to be honest.  At first it really bothered us, but then as we began to seek God, we believed that we were doing what He wanted us to do. I hope this offers encouragement to those who are facing this.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jerris Ducan</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2010/01/19/don%e2%80%99t-fight-back/comment-page-1/#comment-168399</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerris Ducan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/?p=4184#comment-168399</guid>
		<description>I like this.  My first year as a network church pastor I would find myself trying to defend or define our church, especially during the announcement time on Sunday morning.  Several months back I realized that I was being defensive and made change.  When a service begins I announce "we are part of the LifeChurch.tv network and your about to experience what that looks like"

On the personal side there are pastors who make fun of me for not preaching every week.  They call me the "pastor who pushes the play button on Sunday"  I have learned to stop trying to explain and defend our church model to everyone.  I am doing exactly what God has called me to do and they don't have to understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this.  My first year as a network church pastor I would find myself trying to defend or define our church, especially during the announcement time on Sunday morning.  Several months back I realized that I was being defensive and made change.  When a service begins I announce &#8220;we are part of the LifeChurch.tv network and your about to experience what that looks like&#8221;</p>
<p>On the personal side there are pastors who make fun of me for not preaching every week.  They call me the &#8220;pastor who pushes the play button on Sunday&#8221;  I have learned to stop trying to explain and defend our church model to everyone.  I am doing exactly what God has called me to do and they don&#8217;t have to understand it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

