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		<title>By: Is 2009 The Year For Extramarital Affairs? How You Can Protect Yourself &#124; ELEV8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is 2009 The Year For Extramarital Affairs? How You Can Protect Yourself &#124; ELEV8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Groeschel takes similar steps. He says, &#8221; I never travel overnight alone. All my internet activity is monitored. We block [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is 2009 The Year For Extramarital Affairs? How You Can Protect Yourself &#124; PraiseDC - Praise 104.1 DC&#39;s Home for the Gospel Community</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is 2009 The Year For Extramarital Affairs? How You Can Protect Yourself &#124; PraiseDC - Praise 104.1 DC&#39;s Home for the Gospel Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 06:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Groeschel takes similar steps. He says, &#8221; I never travel overnight alone. All my internet activity is monitored. We block [...]</description>
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		<title>By: rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Susan I am male pastor and I fully agree with you. The reality is that each of Craig's [and others] steps to "abstain" from the appearance of evil" can be sidestepped, because what is in your heart will eventually come out. These steps may help us avoid the appearance of sin, but beware that the sin may still remain and we are no better that the worst of offenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Susan I am male pastor and I fully agree with you. The reality is that each of Craig&#8217;s [and others] steps to &#8220;abstain&#8221; from the appearance of evil&#8221; can be sidestepped, because what is in your heart will eventually come out. These steps may help us avoid the appearance of sin, but beware that the sin may still remain and we are no better that the worst of offenders.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom E. Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom E. Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 00:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3rd party? Yes
Small staff? Use your wife or a volunteer
No one available? Postpone session
Door open/secretary see in? The concern can be words as well as actions; if you can't cover both, postpone

Just my two bits worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3rd party? Yes<br />
Small staff? Use your wife or a volunteer<br />
No one available? Postpone session<br />
Door open/secretary see in? The concern can be words as well as actions; if you can&#8217;t cover both, postpone</p>
<p>Just my two bits worth.</p>
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		<title>By: pkw</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great stuff - a friend of mine just sent this after we discussed this topic.I know i'm late to this ball game, but would apprec. clarification on the "never counsel a woman alone" issue. How then? Is there a 3rd party present? What do you suggest for small churches where the entire staff is only 3 or 4? How do you handle when no one else is avail to assist? Do you just leave the door open then? Is it ok to have the door closed if secretary is able to see in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff - a friend of mine just sent this after we discussed this topic.I know i&#8217;m late to this ball game, but would apprec. clarification on the &#8220;never counsel a woman alone&#8221; issue. How then? Is there a 3rd party present? What do you suggest for small churches where the entire staff is only 3 or 4? How do you handle when no one else is avail to assist? Do you just leave the door open then? Is it ok to have the door closed if secretary is able to see in?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom E. Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom E. Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the church have an office? If so contact the secretary/receptionist and tell her you want to talk to someone about counseling. They can help you get started. You can develop a relationship with the counselor before sharing intimate details.

God bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the church have an office? If so contact the secretary/receptionist and tell her you want to talk to someone about counseling. They can help you get started. You can develop a relationship with the counselor before sharing intimate details.</p>
<p>God bless.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2009/03/11/avoid-failing-fatally/comment-page-2/#comment-163196</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question regarding not meeting with a women alone. I completely understand the sitution..I have been pondering talking to my pastor for a few months now. I have some very personal issues I would like to talk to someone about and Ive been praying on what to do and where to start. Ive really needed someone to talk to. I came across this website in tears searching for an answer.... I am a 24 year old female and I go to a VERY large church. Ive been a member for 2 years now and doubt the pastor would even recognize me. So should I even approach him? I feel like after watching him preach he's someone who would really understand. I know there are other people at church that are open to talk but its not the same. I have watched him and listened to his love for God and I believe he is true to what he says on stage. If I just asked a church team member I would be taking a chance on whether or not I even found the right person to talk to. Also, my preacher has a wife that has made a few appearances and she seems like someone I could really open up to. However, I do not know how to contact them unless its right after service. So how do I approach them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question regarding not meeting with a women alone. I completely understand the sitution..I have been pondering talking to my pastor for a few months now. I have some very personal issues I would like to talk to someone about and Ive been praying on what to do and where to start. Ive really needed someone to talk to. I came across this website in tears searching for an answer&#8230;. I am a 24 year old female and I go to a VERY large church. Ive been a member for 2 years now and doubt the pastor would even recognize me. So should I even approach him? I feel like after watching him preach he&#8217;s someone who would really understand. I know there are other people at church that are open to talk but its not the same. I have watched him and listened to his love for God and I believe he is true to what he says on stage. If I just asked a church team member I would be taking a chance on whether or not I even found the right person to talk to. Also, my preacher has a wife that has made a few appearances and she seems like someone I could really open up to. However, I do not know how to contact them unless its right after service. So how do I approach them?</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Gilkerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Gilkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: olie b</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2009/03/11/avoid-failing-fatally/comment-page-2/#comment-162830</link>
		<dc:creator>olie b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G'day guys,
we use on our network some good software called Untangle. It's free and has a relatively good filtering system that updates itself from a central database. If you have several machines and need filtering and reports install this. go to www.untangle.com
Often the root of this problem is something deeper. Asking the Holy Spirit why we have these desires helps, as he may reveal hidden issues from the past.
All for His Glory.
Your brother,
Olie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;day guys,<br />
we use on our network some good software called Untangle. It&#8217;s free and has a relatively good filtering system that updates itself from a central database. If you have several machines and need filtering and reports install this. go to <a href="http://www.untangle.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.untangle.com</a><br />
Often the root of this problem is something deeper. Asking the Holy Spirit why we have these desires helps, as he may reveal hidden issues from the past.<br />
All for His Glory.<br />
Your brother,<br />
Olie</p>
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		<title>By: My #1 way to avoid &#8220;moral failure&#8221; &#171; Losing my religion</title>
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		<dc:creator>My #1 way to avoid &#8220;moral failure&#8221; &#171; Losing my religion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kelly Backstrom</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2009/03/11/avoid-failing-fatally/comment-page-2/#comment-162817</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Backstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be late to jump in on a hashed and rehashed subject but I feel it is imperative that people take seriously the threat to every pastor. I, like many of the naive people who have commented on this, did not see a problem with a man being alone with a woman in the ministry. My heart was pure (as pure as that can be) and my intentions were honest. 

The problem happened after I began to face other ministry related issues (we wrestle not against flesh &#38; blood) and I kept trying to Man Up to get through them as a good pastor would. Forgetting (the devil is a roaring Lion, seeking who he may devour) and setting myself up for the ultimate failure. 

Not only did I fail, I failed with another female that also had good intentions (to the best of my knowledge) and the net effect from just my side was it destroyed me, my marriage, "my ministry", my name, and the real shame was it destroyed the work of God in so many people. 

I know that you who are beyond failing are already justifying why I must have failed and why you will never fail because you are soooo strong (in God). Many strong men have been slain...

You are the ones closest who feels the safest. You have the farthest to fall and will hit bottom with a loud bang. The question is...is it really worth it?

Why not set up strong barriers (such as Craig so wisely suggested) and if you disagree, disagree to yourself so you do not influence another brother or sister to let down their guard and face the same results as so many others. 

I asked God why I failed and he told me...
1. I let my self get physically exhausted (I was Superman)
2. I let myself get mentally exhausted (can you say burnout?)
3. I let myself be in a position where I could fail (if I ever wanted to fail).

Thinking you will never be in a position where you will want to fail is to think you are beyond temptation.

To think you will never fail even if you are tempted is to think you are on the same level as Jesus and that would be foolish of even the greatest of people.

Make no provision for the flesh to fulfill the lust...

I sincerely apologize for letting this get so long, but I do not want a single one of you to face waking up nearly every day for three years and crying my eyes out because I had allowed myself to do what I never thought I was capable of doing.

After 10 years, I now have my wife and family back (thank you God). I have my ministry back and I feel God is using me once again. But, I can NEVER repair the damage I did to the cause of Christ and the lives of those who looked up to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be late to jump in on a hashed and rehashed subject but I feel it is imperative that people take seriously the threat to every pastor. I, like many of the naive people who have commented on this, did not see a problem with a man being alone with a woman in the ministry. My heart was pure (as pure as that can be) and my intentions were honest. </p>
<p>The problem happened after I began to face other ministry related issues (we wrestle not against flesh &amp; blood) and I kept trying to Man Up to get through them as a good pastor would. Forgetting (the devil is a roaring Lion, seeking who he may devour) and setting myself up for the ultimate failure. </p>
<p>Not only did I fail, I failed with another female that also had good intentions (to the best of my knowledge) and the net effect from just my side was it destroyed me, my marriage, &#8220;my ministry&#8221;, my name, and the real shame was it destroyed the work of God in so many people. </p>
<p>I know that you who are beyond failing are already justifying why I must have failed and why you will never fail because you are soooo strong (in God). Many strong men have been slain&#8230;</p>
<p>You are the ones closest who feels the safest. You have the farthest to fall and will hit bottom with a loud bang. The question is&#8230;is it really worth it?</p>
<p>Why not set up strong barriers (such as Craig so wisely suggested) and if you disagree, disagree to yourself so you do not influence another brother or sister to let down their guard and face the same results as so many others. </p>
<p>I asked God why I failed and he told me&#8230;<br />
1. I let my self get physically exhausted (I was Superman)<br />
2. I let myself get mentally exhausted (can you say burnout?)<br />
3. I let myself be in a position where I could fail (if I ever wanted to fail).</p>
<p>Thinking you will never be in a position where you will want to fail is to think you are beyond temptation.</p>
<p>To think you will never fail even if you are tempted is to think you are on the same level as Jesus and that would be foolish of even the greatest of people.</p>
<p>Make no provision for the flesh to fulfill the lust&#8230;</p>
<p>I sincerely apologize for letting this get so long, but I do not want a single one of you to face waking up nearly every day for three years and crying my eyes out because I had allowed myself to do what I never thought I was capable of doing.</p>
<p>After 10 years, I now have my wife and family back (thank you God). I have my ministry back and I feel God is using me once again. But, I can NEVER repair the damage I did to the cause of Christ and the lives of those who looked up to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian La Croix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian La Croix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point of clarification in my first paragraph:

The co-worker and I spent a lot of time together, and some were calling her my girlfriend.  Hope I didn't confuse too many people!</description>
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<p>The co-worker and I spent a lot of time together, and some were calling her my girlfriend.  Hope I didn&#8217;t confuse too many people!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian La Croix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian La Croix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PastorK,

I am also bi-vocational and I try to live by my standards at my other job as well.  At another city, rumors started swirling around my co-workers about one of my female colleagues and me because we had to spend so much time together with my "girlfriend."

I bit one guy's head off by telling him that I was married to my girlfriend, and that I don't appreciate any joking about such things as adultery.  That ended the talk in a hurry.

One time I made the mistake of asking this female colleague if she had plans (I was going to her location to train her on the software we were using.).  Her response was, in a seductive voice, "Well, what did you have in mind?"  I quickly told her that I don't joke about things like that, and I'd appreciate it if she didn't, either.

So you see, this is an issue outside of the church, and it's hardly an issue only for pastors.  People have suggested Jerry Jenkins' book, "Hedges," and I can't recommend it highly enough no matter what you do for a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PastorK,</p>
<p>I am also bi-vocational and I try to live by my standards at my other job as well.  At another city, rumors started swirling around my co-workers about one of my female colleagues and me because we had to spend so much time together with my &#8220;girlfriend.&#8221;</p>
<p>I bit one guy&#8217;s head off by telling him that I was married to my girlfriend, and that I don&#8217;t appreciate any joking about such things as adultery.  That ended the talk in a hurry.</p>
<p>One time I made the mistake of asking this female colleague if she had plans (I was going to her location to train her on the software we were using.).  Her response was, in a seductive voice, &#8220;Well, what did you have in mind?&#8221;  I quickly told her that I don&#8217;t joke about things like that, and I&#8217;d appreciate it if she didn&#8217;t, either.</p>
<p>So you see, this is an issue outside of the church, and it&#8217;s hardly an issue only for pastors.  People have suggested Jerry Jenkins&#8217; book, &#8220;Hedges,&#8221; and I can&#8217;t recommend it highly enough no matter what you do for a living.</p>
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		<title>By: Latasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Latasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT! This really needs to be taught to the body in general</description>
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		<title>By: PastorK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PastorK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 06:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that the thing people seem most concerned about here is the damage that happens when people gossip about the "appearance of evil."

Perhaps our time would be better spent dealing with that most pervasive of sins and getting our holy minds out of the gutter. 

I am bi-vocational, and can meet with anyone of any gender at my "other" job, alone, and no one raises an eyebrow.  But Christians seem to be the first ones to jump to conclusions.  How sad.

In my church, we have a hard and fast rule that follows Matt 5:23 to a T.  We work hard to cultivate a "no gossip zone" and so far, it's working.  

If someone in the church goes to another members and says, "I saw xxx alone with yyyy the other day," that member is faithful to stop the gossiper in their tracks and remind them of the Scripture.

It's the only church I've ever been a part of that has even addressed this.  Why are we treating the women of our churches like a dangerous drug?  Let's address the real sin where it lies...in the gossipers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that the thing people seem most concerned about here is the damage that happens when people gossip about the &#8220;appearance of evil.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps our time would be better spent dealing with that most pervasive of sins and getting our holy minds out of the gutter. </p>
<p>I am bi-vocational, and can meet with anyone of any gender at my &#8220;other&#8221; job, alone, and no one raises an eyebrow.  But Christians seem to be the first ones to jump to conclusions.  How sad.</p>
<p>In my church, we have a hard and fast rule that follows Matt 5:23 to a T.  We work hard to cultivate a &#8220;no gossip zone&#8221; and so far, it&#8217;s working.  </p>
<p>If someone in the church goes to another members and says, &#8220;I saw xxx alone with yyyy the other day,&#8221; that member is faithful to stop the gossiper in their tracks and remind them of the Scripture.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the only church I&#8217;ve ever been a part of that has even addressed this.  Why are we treating the women of our churches like a dangerous drug?  Let&#8217;s address the real sin where it lies&#8230;in the gossipers.</p>
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		<title>By: The Pastor&#8217;s Place &#187; Drastic Measures to Avoid Moral Failure</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Pastor&#8217;s Place &#187; Drastic Measures to Avoid Moral Failure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you ladies for your insights. I am so glad that in a discussion like this there are voices and insights to balance / complement the ideas from the guys. 

Being a man in the ministry myself, I must admit temptation comes often when I am most unprepared for. Some of the insights are so true here. Men are relatively more visual while women are relatively more emotional. The idea of an "emotional affair" is not exclusive to women only. There are men who are also involved in secret emotional affairs. 

Ladies, thank you for telling us that some of the men's personal practices here might be interpreted differently from their original intent. However, I would like ask you to pray for us, men, so that we can learn how to do better. Some of the safeguard measures might not be the best, but it is our attempt to protect ourselves, the church, and also the ladies. When some wrote that they will not meet with women alone, my immediate feeling is something like this: "wow, this man know that he is fallible, susceptible to temptation, and thus set up a boundary so as to avoid sin." Perhaps some of you might think that we men are blaming the ladies. However, as a man myself, I am thinking more on how to set boundary for myself so that I will not sin. (Of course there are, and will be, temptations coming from the opposite sex, however, this can only account for a small percentage of my own personal thought.)

I was studying the book of 1 Corinthians recently. There are who feel nothing when eating food sacrificed to idols and there are those who are deeply troubled by it. Let us bear with one another. In a similar way, please bear with us who, for the sake of our own sinful nature and for the sake of protecting the church, may be regarded by some of you as "weak." Knowing my own sinful nature, I am willing to be termed "weak" here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you ladies for your insights. I am so glad that in a discussion like this there are voices and insights to balance / complement the ideas from the guys. </p>
<p>Being a man in the ministry myself, I must admit temptation comes often when I am most unprepared for. Some of the insights are so true here. Men are relatively more visual while women are relatively more emotional. The idea of an &#8220;emotional affair&#8221; is not exclusive to women only. There are men who are also involved in secret emotional affairs. </p>
<p>Ladies, thank you for telling us that some of the men&#8217;s personal practices here might be interpreted differently from their original intent. However, I would like ask you to pray for us, men, so that we can learn how to do better. Some of the safeguard measures might not be the best, but it is our attempt to protect ourselves, the church, and also the ladies. When some wrote that they will not meet with women alone, my immediate feeling is something like this: &#8220;wow, this man know that he is fallible, susceptible to temptation, and thus set up a boundary so as to avoid sin.&#8221; Perhaps some of you might think that we men are blaming the ladies. However, as a man myself, I am thinking more on how to set boundary for myself so that I will not sin. (Of course there are, and will be, temptations coming from the opposite sex, however, this can only account for a small percentage of my own personal thought.)</p>
<p>I was studying the book of 1 Corinthians recently. There are who feel nothing when eating food sacrificed to idols and there are those who are deeply troubled by it. Let us bear with one another. In a similar way, please bear with us who, for the sake of our own sinful nature and for the sake of protecting the church, may be regarded by some of you as &#8220;weak.&#8221; Knowing my own sinful nature, I am willing to be termed &#8220;weak&#8221; here.</p>
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		<title>By: Why Accountability Fails » *shrug*</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2009/03/11/avoid-failing-fatally/comment-page-2/#comment-162780</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Accountability Fails » *shrug*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] article today entitled Drastic Measures to Avoid Moral Failure. It links to posts from Perry Noble, Craig Groeschel and Shaun King which highlight reasons pastors have moral failures and/or safeguards they&#8217;ve [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] article today entitled Drastic Measures to Avoid Moral Failure. It links to posts from Perry Noble, Craig Groeschel and Shaun King which highlight reasons pastors have moral failures and/or safeguards they&#8217;ve [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary Hannah</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2009/03/11/avoid-failing-fatally/comment-page-2/#comment-162752</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemary Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think we can stop following Jesus's example because he was without sin and we are not!  He was not without temptation, now was he?

Other professional men, many NOT Christians, manage to meet women alone without seducing them.  I really find it hard to believe that Christian men cannot manage it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we can stop following Jesus&#8217;s example because he was without sin and we are not!  He was not without temptation, now was he?</p>
<p>Other professional men, many NOT Christians, manage to meet women alone without seducing them.  I really find it hard to believe that Christian men cannot manage it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian La Croix</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2009/03/11/avoid-failing-fatally/comment-page-2/#comment-162751</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian La Croix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone point to an example where Jesus met with a woman alone in a room?  I can't.  Every example of Jesus ministering to women in Scripture is done either in a group setting or outside - where everyone could see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone point to an example where Jesus met with a woman alone in a room?  I can&#8217;t.  Every example of Jesus ministering to women in Scripture is done either in a group setting or outside - where everyone could see.</p>
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