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By: Jody Earley

Jody Earley — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:11:10 +0000

Pastor Craig. I was wondering how did you know that you were called to start a church? What was the tipping point that caused you to pull the trigger?

By: Adam

Adam — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:44:20 +0000

I took a group of students to a summer camp where the camp pastor was saying a lot of the same things I had been saying for the past year. When the camp pastor said it some of our students looked down the row at me with a puzzling look. I knew at that moment that they finally had heard what I had been saying. Outside voices are very beneficial!

By: Will

Will — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:25:38 +0000

Craig Groeschel….

You are awesome man! I’m not in (or even near) any of your campuses. I’m a worship leader at a small church in SC. One reason why I love to keep tabs on you is because you truly have a desire that this whole entire world be changed through the power of Christ and you don’t care if anybody even knows who Craig Groeschel is!

What a role model. Thanks for all you do!

By: princessjes

princessjes — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:56:21 +0000

Personal comments mean a lot from the leader, but general statements are great from outsiders.

By: Lori Biddle

Lori Biddle — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:16:22 +0000

I’ll never stop being surprised by how easy it is to usually get a yes! I have no idea why we don’t do this more, just get caught up in the day to day I guess. We have a huge guest coming to speak to our worship teams in a couple of weeks, I just took a shot and called someone I’ve never met before and they are coming for a fraction of the cost they typically get!! I said the very thing you are saying here to my pastors, “my teams just need to hear a new voice!” I agree totally with your post!

By: Brad Martin

Brad Martin — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:21:13 +0000

Great Post! We did this back in June by bringing in another Pastor to pour into our LIFEGroup leaders. He and his wife gave us some great insight on how to provide “life-on-life” groups. We are now taking what they said and running with it.

By: Kendra

Kendra — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:22:22 +0000

Speaking from the staff rank and file, Craig is right. We still quote to each other stuff that those guys have said to us with a smile. Especially Perry Noble because he’s so stinkin’ funny. :)

By: jim

jim — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:04:15 +0000

I call this “The white noise principle”. After a while of hearing me - the church, my kids, whomever, begin to hear white noise. The white noise needs to be shaken up with a new sound and that is a new voice is and what it does. It shakes things up.

Thanks for the thought.

By: Bill (cycleguy)

Bill (cycleguy) — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:02:44 +0000

Scott: thanks

Heady: what a cool idea! I am way past that but as a pastor can use that as a great suggestion.

By: Craig Groeschel

Craig Groeschel — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:51:15 +0000

Heady, Thanks for adding another dimension to the discussion. You are right, another parent or significant role model can say the same thing we say to our kids but it can mean more to them.

By: Heady

Heady — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:23:29 +0000

So true! My friends and I often exchange favors of having the “talk” with our children. We often know that are children respect us as parents but when you have that “cool friend” (according to your children) come over to encourage them or tell them what you’ve been telling them for years, can make a world of difference in their minds. But, I so understand. I was the same way with my parents.

By: Joseph

Joseph — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:57:30 +0000

Not sure there’s much to add! You said it perfectly, and that’s been my experience too. For some reason it sounds more believable coming from someone who is not as invested in your vision as you are. Go figure!

By: Scott Williams

Scott Williams — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:30:18 +0000

Bill(cycle guy)- Well Said!

Craig- As one of your staff members, I 100% agree!

By: Bill (cycleguy)

Bill (cycleguy) — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:12:02 +0000

I think what you express here Craig is that old principle: “a prophet is without honor in his own country.” Not that you are without honor…none of your staff would say that. But when we hear the same thing from someone else it sort rings a bell. Sort of like when a visitor comes and tells you how much the worship/teaching/whatever meant to them. That seems to mean more than coming from one who may say the same thing every week. We recently had a special anniversary offering and instead of me talking about I had each of the leaders talk about it on successive Sundays. It went over much better. Same principle as you are speaking about I think.