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		<title>By: Swerve Favorites: Spirit Led Instead of Model Driven - LifeChurch.tv : swerve</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-171395</link>
		<dc:creator>Swerve Favorites: Spirit Led Instead of Model Driven - LifeChurch.tv : swerve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [Repost from August 13, 2008] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Will Mancini</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-164974</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Mancini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw this old post. I've enjoyed running into you a few times and was just wondering if you have read Church Unique yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw this old post. I&#8217;ve enjoyed running into you a few times and was just wondering if you have read Church Unique yet?</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-09-01 &#124; Why I FAILED</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-158605</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-09-01 &#124; Why I FAILED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Spirit Led Instead of Model Driven - LifeChurch.tv : swerve &#34;What are YOU uniquely equipped and called to do?&#34; is not just a question for pastors. (tags: personal_development life success) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Spirit Led Instead of Model Driven - LifeChurch.tv : swerve &quot;What are YOU uniquely equipped and called to do?&quot; is not just a question for pastors. (tags: personal_development life success) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yawning Angels &#171; E219</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157271</link>
		<dc:creator>Yawning Angels &#171; E219</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yawning&#160;Angels  Many pastors copy models. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yawning&nbsp;Angels  Many pastors copy models. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Groeschel</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157249</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Groeschel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, You bet... I am praying right now for Marion CC. Blessings to you and your ministry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, You bet&#8230; I am praying right now for Marion CC. Blessings to you and your ministry.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Blankenship</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157248</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Blankenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig,

Great point.  This is sooo easy to do, to follow patterns that appear to have been successful in other places, only to forget the transforming power of the Spirit's guidance.  Thanks for the reminder.  Please pray for Marion Community Church; that God will send workers for the harvest!

Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig,</p>
<p>Great point.  This is sooo easy to do, to follow patterns that appear to have been successful in other places, only to forget the transforming power of the Spirit&#8217;s guidance.  Thanks for the reminder.  Please pray for Marion Community Church; that God will send workers for the harvest!</p>
<p>Alex</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Henderson</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157121</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always struggled with this (in established chuches) until God called me to plant a church near Tucson, AZ. A helpful book was Visioneering by Andy Stanley. As a result, God has spoken to me over and over again through the Book of Nehemiah about how we are to do church. It is not a copy of another church or ministry, it is an idea God gave me that fits our context. For me, the key was to spend way more time in the Bible than reading other books. Not a criticism of books, because I love to read and glean from others' experience and insight, but ultimately, the original blueprint for the church comes from the One who died for it and called it into existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always struggled with this (in established chuches) until God called me to plant a church near Tucson, AZ. A helpful book was Visioneering by Andy Stanley. As a result, God has spoken to me over and over again through the Book of Nehemiah about how we are to do church. It is not a copy of another church or ministry, it is an idea God gave me that fits our context. For me, the key was to spend way more time in the Bible than reading other books. Not a criticism of books, because I love to read and glean from others&#8217; experience and insight, but ultimately, the original blueprint for the church comes from the One who died for it and called it into existence.</p>
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		<title>By: andy king</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157119</link>
		<dc:creator>andy king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for your insight and truth. I also loved hear you at the Summit last week. Thank you so much
Andy King
www.dreamcenterpeoria.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your insight and truth. I also loved hear you at the Summit last week. Thank you so much<br />
Andy King<br />
<a href="http://www.dreamcenterpeoria.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.dreamcenterpeoria.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: lundstudio</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157118</link>
		<dc:creator>lundstudio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 00:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love the fact that we the church are reinventing ourselves and finding that God moves where there are people willing to do His work. love Him love others. grateful for His spirit, grateful we have leaders that know how impossible life is without Him. 

good word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love the fact that we the church are reinventing ourselves and finding that God moves where there are people willing to do His work. love Him love others. grateful for His spirit, grateful we have leaders that know how impossible life is without Him. </p>
<p>good word.</p>
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		<title>By: Chilly</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157117</link>
		<dc:creator>Chilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RESULTS...
Some people pay for them, others pray for them.

I prefer the latter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RESULTS&#8230;<br />
Some people pay for them, others pray for them.</p>
<p>I prefer the latter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chadclem.com &#183; Blog of the week</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157115</link>
		<dc:creator>chadclem.com &#183; Blog of the week</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] questions.  Not just the, &#8220;what does that church do?&#8221; question.  Check this out&#8230;SWERVE!    Person Craig Groeschel Right click for SmartMenu [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] questions.  Not just the, &#8220;what does that church do?&#8221; question.  Check this out&#8230;SWERVE!    Person Craig Groeschel Right click for SmartMenu [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Messer</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157114</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Messer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok GOD thank you for sending this message via Pastor Craig, You know Lord how much I keep on struggling with this DreamCenter stuff. mabye i am suppost to re invent the wheel9 w/ GODS help of course i would be a ignoramus if i tried to succeed on my own sure itsa great idea but its not your idea for me. Doors keep shutting some others open, gentle reminders from your servants this was great to see today. Thank you LORD and you to Craig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok GOD thank you for sending this message via Pastor Craig, You know Lord how much I keep on struggling with this DreamCenter stuff. mabye i am suppost to re invent the wheel9 w/ GODS help of course i would be a ignoramus if i tried to succeed on my own sure itsa great idea but its not your idea for me. Doors keep shutting some others open, gentle reminders from your servants this was great to see today. Thank you LORD and you to Craig</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157111</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good stuff!  finding our God-given DNA is difficult when there are so many leaders with great ideas.  The temptation is to always go with what has worked for others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good stuff!  finding our God-given DNA is difficult when there are so many leaders with great ideas.  The temptation is to always go with what has worked for others.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan McKnight</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157110</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan McKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoops, I meant Craig...obviously</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops, I meant Craig&#8230;obviously</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan McKnight</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157109</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan McKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graig, Thanks for this series of posts. God has really used you to revive my commitment to make history and redefine the way people think about God and His Church.

That will never be accomplished by doing the same things ina different place. Thanks Brother!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graig, Thanks for this series of posts. God has really used you to revive my commitment to make history and redefine the way people think about God and His Church.</p>
<p>That will never be accomplished by doing the same things ina different place. Thanks Brother!</p>
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		<title>By: TheIntern</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157108</link>
		<dc:creator>TheIntern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read "it" and another book called "Launch" by Nelson S. because me and my wife are praying about planting a church on the east coast in the next year or two. Both were well timed for where I am at and this post was as well. I am planning strategy and understanding who God made me to be is vital! Thanks Pastor Craig!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read &#8220;it&#8221; and another book called &#8220;Launch&#8221; by Nelson S. because me and my wife are praying about planting a church on the east coast in the next year or two. Both were well timed for where I am at and this post was as well. I am planning strategy and understanding who God made me to be is vital! Thanks Pastor Craig!</p>
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		<title>By: dave longstreth</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157107</link>
		<dc:creator>dave longstreth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! A copy of a copy isn't very good - and each time its copied it loses something. We are first to copy our lives after Christ. In the music world we like replication because its a truer copy of the original. But you can only replicate from the master. Great post Craig!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! A copy of a copy isn&#8217;t very good - and each time its copied it loses something. We are first to copy our lives after Christ. In the music world we like replication because its a truer copy of the original. But you can only replicate from the master. Great post Craig!</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157106</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is especially true for our youth ministry at the Northwest campus... 

I've found it is difficult to allow your ministry to be led by the spirit because you often don't have anyone to compare to, so it is difficult to know how you are doing.  However, if you're being led by the spirit it shouldn't matter how you measure up to others... 

The initial steps may be difficult but the effects are far-reaching...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is especially true for our youth ministry at the Northwest campus&#8230; </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found it is difficult to allow your ministry to be led by the spirit because you often don&#8217;t have anyone to compare to, so it is difficult to know how you are doing.  However, if you&#8217;re being led by the spirit it shouldn&#8217;t matter how you measure up to others&#8230; </p>
<p>The initial steps may be difficult but the effects are far-reaching&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Williams</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157105</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig,
I have appreciated what you have been saying along these lines. It has really challenged me. I think many (me included) have taken the whole "there's nothing new under the sun" thing out of context or have used in a way that has closed us off from the leading of the Holy Spirit. Unfortunately, I have used it too many times in my past to justify laziness. Thanks for the challenge.
Rusty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig,<br />
I have appreciated what you have been saying along these lines. It has really challenged me. I think many (me included) have taken the whole &#8220;there&#8217;s nothing new under the sun&#8221; thing out of context or have used in a way that has closed us off from the leading of the Holy Spirit. Unfortunately, I have used it too many times in my past to justify laziness. Thanks for the challenge.<br />
Rusty</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Groeschel</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/13/value-driven-instead-of-model-driven/comment-page-1/#comment-157104</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Groeschel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, Wow! So excited to hear about your vision for church planting in Franklin! Go! Go! Go!

Brad, Great story! God often shows us something that He has shown someone else. It seems better when it comes straight from Him.

Steve, Thanks.

John, I am grateful for your generous words. Blessings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, Wow! So excited to hear about your vision for church planting in Franklin! Go! Go! Go!</p>
<p>Brad, Great story! God often shows us something that He has shown someone else. It seems better when it comes straight from Him.</p>
<p>Steve, Thanks.</p>
<p>John, I am grateful for your generous words. Blessings.</p>
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