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	<title>Comments on: I need more&#8230;</title>
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	<description>a leadership, technology, and innovation blog for pastors and church leaders</description>
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		<title>By: EROPPER</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157233</link>
		<dc:creator>EROPPER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CHURCH is not a corporation and the "senior pastor" is not a CEO............sadly this is how a lot of "churches" are run today.....

Read Your Bibles people!!!!  The N.T. church was not a money making machine!!!!!

The book "Pagan Christianity?" by Frank Viola and George Barna gives keen insight on how the "church" got to be a business in America and around the world....it's quite disturbing and definitely a recommended read for everyone!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CHURCH is not a corporation and the &#8220;senior pastor&#8221; is not a CEO&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;sadly this is how a lot of &#8220;churches&#8221; are run today&#8230;..</p>
<p>Read Your Bibles people!!!!  The N.T. church was not a money making machine!!!!!</p>
<p>The book &#8220;Pagan Christianity?&#8221; by Frank Viola and George Barna gives keen insight on how the &#8220;church&#8221; got to be a business in America and around the world&#8230;.it&#8217;s quite disturbing and definitely a recommended read for everyone!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Fortuitous Bouncing &#171; man.of.depravity</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157198</link>
		<dc:creator>Fortuitous Bouncing &#171; man.of.depravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bobby Gruenewald shares his thoughts and questions on pastors and church leaders needing more. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Links of the Week &#171; My World</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157191</link>
		<dc:creator>Links of the Week &#171; My World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bobby on I need more&#8230;  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Links of the Week at Trey Kelly</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157178</link>
		<dc:creator>Links of the Week at Trey Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] saying, &#8220;if I only had _______, we&#8217;d be set as a church.&#8221;  Bobby Gruenewald thinks that is bad thinking and I agree. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] saying, &#8220;if I only had _______, we&#8217;d be set as a church.&#8221;  Bobby Gruenewald thinks that is bad thinking and I agree. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kelley Whitton</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157168</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelley Whitton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wants so much to be viewed as a follower for Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wants so much to be viewed as a follower for Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelley Whitton</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157166</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelley Whitton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compassionate for people.  Put other peoples needs above my own.  A good listener</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compassionate for people.  Put other peoples needs above my own.  A good listener</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Gruenewald</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157090</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby Gruenewald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt,

Great questions. There are clearly people in the world with a lot of resources who would appear to be less than "mature". So you could conclude that a person can have resources regardless of whether they have been "faithful" in the past.

The focus of this post is not about how to get more resources, but rather to be guarded against seeing "more resources" as "THE" answer to our ministry challenges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt,</p>
<p>Great questions. There are clearly people in the world with a lot of resources who would appear to be less than &#8220;mature&#8221;. So you could conclude that a person can have resources regardless of whether they have been &#8220;faithful&#8221; in the past.</p>
<p>The focus of this post is not about how to get more resources, but rather to be guarded against seeing &#8220;more resources&#8221; as &#8220;THE&#8221; answer to our ministry challenges.</p>
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		<title>By: PeopleofThunder</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157086</link>
		<dc:creator>PeopleofThunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a local company here, in order to gain more revenue installed an elite system to track and to account for expenses ...

It was an extremely high tech system, but it slowed production nearly 35%.... something that the leadership had not accounted for, and hurt the companies pocket book...including the expense for the accounting system...

The compnay, a multi million dollar company went bust less than a year later, because they couldn't let the new system go...

Sometimes, we overthink, overdo, and over control, and get bogged down in our own thoughts and ways...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a local company here, in order to gain more revenue installed an elite system to track and to account for expenses &#8230;</p>
<p>It was an extremely high tech system, but it slowed production nearly 35%&#8230;. something that the leadership had not accounted for, and hurt the companies pocket book&#8230;including the expense for the accounting system&#8230;</p>
<p>The compnay, a multi million dollar company went bust less than a year later, because they couldn&#8217;t let the new system go&#8230;</p>
<p>Sometimes, we overthink, overdo, and over control, and get bogged down in our own thoughts and ways&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157082</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We lack resourcefulness not resources, if keep looking for magic handouts from heaven how will we ever learn to be good stewards of all Christ has already given us.

Scripture states if you’re faithful with little you’ll be faithful with much yet too often in the church we want to ignore the little and go for the much before we’ve learned the lessons along the way.  

We started out with 4 people,$40 and a vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We lack resourcefulness not resources, if keep looking for magic handouts from heaven how will we ever learn to be good stewards of all Christ has already given us.</p>
<p>Scripture states if you’re faithful with little you’ll be faithful with much yet too often in the church we want to ignore the little and go for the much before we’ve learned the lessons along the way.  </p>
<p>We started out with 4 people,$40 and a vision.</p>
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		<title>By: Chilly</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157081</link>
		<dc:creator>Chilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we strive to live on less, so that we can give more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we strive to live on less, so that we can give more.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157079</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren't there times when resources are just hindered?... Or is it God alone allocating resources according to our level of maturity.  Aren't there other factors involved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t there times when resources are just hindered?&#8230; Or is it God alone allocating resources according to our level of maturity.  Aren&#8217;t there other factors involved?</p>
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		<title>By: Tome D.</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157072</link>
		<dc:creator>Tome D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great thoughts Bobby G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thoughts Bobby G.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157071</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of times God is trying to teach us how to be faithful with what we already have before he blesses us with more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of times God is trying to teach us how to be faithful with what we already have before he blesses us with more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Gagnon</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157069</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Gagnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bobby,

As a recent ARC plant....I will admit if I had a dollar for ever time I thought "what if" I'd be giving more to the Church which means we would have more....(there i go again) Seriously Bobby that is some tight stuff i love how you mentioned if you waited for the "stuff" to reach 25k you would still be waiting.  I think many leaders rest in the false assurance of the future assuming to someday have enough "stuff" I'm not sure we ever feel like we have enough until God is simply are everything, He is enough!  Later Bro!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bobby,</p>
<p>As a recent ARC plant&#8230;.I will admit if I had a dollar for ever time I thought &#8220;what if&#8221; I&#8217;d be giving more to the Church which means we would have more&#8230;.(there i go again) Seriously Bobby that is some tight stuff i love how you mentioned if you waited for the &#8220;stuff&#8221; to reach 25k you would still be waiting.  I think many leaders rest in the false assurance of the future assuming to someday have enough &#8220;stuff&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure we ever feel like we have enough until God is simply are everything, He is enough!  Later Bro!</p>
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		<title>By: brandon</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157066</link>
		<dc:creator>brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bobby, that is beautiful.  thank you for the reminder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bobby, that is beautiful.  thank you for the reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157064</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AWESOME QUESTIONS! Thank you so much for this! Especially the last. I think we could accomplish more by using less money on marketing and a fat building, and spending more on loving our neighbor - just sayin'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AWESOME QUESTIONS! Thank you so much for this! Especially the last. I think we could accomplish more by using less money on marketing and a fat building, and spending more on loving our neighbor - just sayin&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Christine N.</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157063</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS  Everything else is stewardship</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS  Everything else is stewardship</p>
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		<title>By: Christine N.</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157061</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did the early church have--just themselves and the Holy Spirit.  If we don't have the Spirit of God, it doesn't matter how many resources we have.  If we do have the Spirit of God, ditto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did the early church have&#8211;just themselves and the Holy Spirit.  If we don&#8217;t have the Spirit of God, it doesn&#8217;t matter how many resources we have.  If we do have the Spirit of God, ditto.</p>
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		<title>By: lundstudio</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157060</link>
		<dc:creator>lundstudio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice. more please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice. more please.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/08/12/i-need-more/comment-page-1/#comment-157058</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GREAT stuff Bobby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GREAT stuff Bobby!</p>
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