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	<title>Comments on: Guest Blog: Josh Brower</title>
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		<title>By: Going Retro &#171; Vertical Resonator</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/07/09/guest-blog-josh-brower-3/comment-page-1/#comment-168779</link>
		<dc:creator>Going Retro &#171; Vertical Resonator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from swerve.lifechurch.tv OLD is the new NEW I’ve been noticing that many ideas are sprouting from our American media [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kym</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/07/09/guest-blog-josh-brower-3/comment-page-1/#comment-156724</link>
		<dc:creator>Kym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hummmm, off the track of what you are all saying, as I am new, VERY new to LifeChurch, but I have finally "looking forward to Sundays!", it's not about "oh, the weekend is over...", "let's iron our shirts and pack lunches"....it's about the LifeChurch Experience....yah...I told you I was off track of what you all were talking about.  I guess I just wanted to leave a comment - See my name in bold letters, but also tell you all how truly honestly HAPPY I am that I found you all, LifeChurch, Josh and his wife Heather!  Without you and them, my life would be so very confusing right now!  So again, sorry to change the subject - Just wanted to add a note that on Sundays - I am the happiest person in Colonie, NY!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hummmm, off the track of what you are all saying, as I am new, VERY new to LifeChurch, but I have finally &#8220;looking forward to Sundays!&#8221;, it&#8217;s not about &#8220;oh, the weekend is over&#8230;&#8221;, &#8220;let&#8217;s iron our shirts and pack lunches&#8221;&#8230;.it&#8217;s about the LifeChurch Experience&#8230;.yah&#8230;I told you I was off track of what you all were talking about.  I guess I just wanted to leave a comment - See my name in bold letters, but also tell you all how truly honestly HAPPY I am that I found you all, LifeChurch, Josh and his wife Heather!  Without you and them, my life would be so very confusing right now!  So again, sorry to change the subject - Just wanted to add a note that on Sundays - I am the happiest person in Colonie, NY!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Christine N.</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/07/09/guest-blog-josh-brower-3/comment-page-1/#comment-156081</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick--I like what you said.  Or have we done the same old thing over again without the thought or prayer behind it that made it so powerful in the first place?  For example, songs/hymns sung without thinking about the words, public prayers said without really focusing on that it's God we're talking to, videos played because we need some media example to catch attention or spice up the sermon....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick&#8211;I like what you said.  Or have we done the same old thing over again without the thought or prayer behind it that made it so powerful in the first place?  For example, songs/hymns sung without thinking about the words, public prayers said without really focusing on that it&#8217;s God we&#8217;re talking to, videos played because we need some media example to catch attention or spice up the sermon&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Big John Scott</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/07/09/guest-blog-josh-brower-3/comment-page-1/#comment-156069</link>
		<dc:creator>Big John Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the guitar hero thing along with the propensity of limewire has students very well versed in 80's and 90's hits.  rather than remixing current songs with Christian words..i'd be interested to see if anyone is using these old riffs or even choruses from such songs to 'package' our current worship songs on a youth level..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the guitar hero thing along with the propensity of limewire has students very well versed in 80&#8217;s and 90&#8217;s hits.  rather than remixing current songs with Christian words..i&#8217;d be interested to see if anyone is using these old riffs or even choruses from such songs to &#8216;package&#8217; our current worship songs on a youth level..</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/07/09/guest-blog-josh-brower-3/comment-page-1/#comment-156059</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re done hymns are the hot retro thing right now. well they have been for the past 5 years at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re done hymns are the hot retro thing right now. well they have been for the past 5 years at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Brower</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/07/09/guest-blog-josh-brower-3/comment-page-1/#comment-156058</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Brower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt and Matt, great comments.

Larry, don't forget to feather your hair.

Kenyon, sometimes a break from the iPhone is what we all need once in awhile.

Joe and Matt, thanks for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt and Matt, great comments.</p>
<p>Larry, don&#8217;t forget to feather your hair.</p>
<p>Kenyon, sometimes a break from the iPhone is what we all need once in awhile.</p>
<p>Joe and Matt, thanks for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Air up the tires &#171; My favorite thing about science is the siphon.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Air up the tires &#171; My favorite thing about science is the siphon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by Patrick Sievert under church planting &#160;  Josh Brower had a guest blog over on swerve today about how Old can be the new [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick Sievert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Sievert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the biggest problems isn't necessarily so much that what we used to do doesn't &lt;i&gt;work&lt;/i&gt; anymore (although that definitely is the case at times).  Rather, I think it's what we used to do, we often don't do &lt;i&gt;well&lt;/i&gt; anymore.  A lot of churches have moved away from having a choir.  But a &lt;b&gt;good&lt;/b&gt; choir can still be a very powerful force.  A lot of pastors/churches have moved away from expository teaching, but maybe it's just that we accidentally drifted away from &lt;b&gt;good&lt;/b&gt; expository preaching.

Maybe what we need isn't to reinvent the wheel, maybe we just need to air up the tires...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the biggest problems isn&#8217;t necessarily so much that what we used to do doesn&#8217;t <i>work</i> anymore (although that definitely is the case at times).  Rather, I think it&#8217;s what we used to do, we often don&#8217;t do <i>well</i> anymore.  A lot of churches have moved away from having a choir.  But a <b>good</b> choir can still be a very powerful force.  A lot of pastors/churches have moved away from expository teaching, but maybe it&#8217;s just that we accidentally drifted away from <b>good</b> expository preaching.</p>
<p>Maybe what we need isn&#8217;t to reinvent the wheel, maybe we just need to air up the tires&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to be kind of the trendy thing to bring a ton of old hymns back and play those.  The thing with that is that many of our people just do not understand what is being said.  But I have found myself going back pulling songs that I haven't done in 2 or 3 years+, reworking them and then introducing them.  Some people know them, others don't and it is a great way to bring a really great song back and have it be fresh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to be kind of the trendy thing to bring a ton of old hymns back and play those.  The thing with that is that many of our people just do not understand what is being said.  But I have found myself going back pulling songs that I haven&#8217;t done in 2 or 3 years+, reworking them and then introducing them.  Some people know them, others don&#8217;t and it is a great way to bring a really great song back and have it be fresh.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dingwall</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/07/09/guest-blog-josh-brower-3/comment-page-1/#comment-156050</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Dingwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm pretty sure that the world is now ready for the return of parachute pants.  I'm game!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that the world is now ready for the return of parachute pants.  I&#8217;m game!</p>
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		<title>By: Kenyon</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/07/09/guest-blog-josh-brower-3/comment-page-1/#comment-156049</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I'll go buy a rotary dial phone rather than an iPhone on Friday.</description>
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		<title>By: Check it out&#8230; &#171; The Life of Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Check it out&#8230; &#171; The Life of Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Old is the new NEW [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/07/09/guest-blog-josh-brower-3/comment-page-1/#comment-156046</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I quit parting my hair down the middle but now after reading your post I think I may go back to that look or the Magnum PI look with the hair straight back and those awesome OP shorts with the Rick Warren--I mean Hawaiian shirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I quit parting my hair down the middle but now after reading your post I think I may go back to that look or the Magnum PI look with the hair straight back and those awesome OP shorts with the Rick Warren&#8211;I mean Hawaiian shirt.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Edmondson</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/07/09/guest-blog-josh-brower-3/comment-page-1/#comment-156045</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Edmondson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good reminder as we plan worship services.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Stallbaum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Stallbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is great. As a young adult pastor I have noticed many young adult groups that go up and then fall down. The main reason why is they base there groups on activities. The problem with that is activities come and go. What's popular now will not be in 3 months and then you will have to scramble to find the latest trend. The ones that I see that are successful take preaching and worship music and repackage it to fit the ears and heart of the generation they are reaching. 

I must remind myself regularly that it's not the events or programs but it's the word of God and our relationship with him that change our heart and lives and attract all the people. Let the people work out what they like to do for fun and call then small groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is great. As a young adult pastor I have noticed many young adult groups that go up and then fall down. The main reason why is they base there groups on activities. The problem with that is activities come and go. What&#8217;s popular now will not be in 3 months and then you will have to scramble to find the latest trend. The ones that I see that are successful take preaching and worship music and repackage it to fit the ears and heart of the generation they are reaching. </p>
<p>I must remind myself regularly that it&#8217;s not the events or programs but it&#8217;s the word of God and our relationship with him that change our heart and lives and attract all the people. Let the people work out what they like to do for fun and call then small groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Huber</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/07/09/guest-blog-josh-brower-3/comment-page-1/#comment-156043</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Huber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the Copeland mention...ah, what a band!

Haha...at our recent summer camp, we wrote and performed a very cheesy 80s song...keytar...shredding on a 7-string Ibanez...vocoders....

It was a blast, and everyone seemed to enjoy it.  Unfortunately, the kids were to young to understand a lot of the references, but hey, we got a kick out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the Copeland mention&#8230;ah, what a band!</p>
<p>Haha&#8230;at our recent summer camp, we wrote and performed a very cheesy 80s song&#8230;keytar&#8230;shredding on a 7-string Ibanez&#8230;vocoders&#8230;.</p>
<p>It was a blast, and everyone seemed to enjoy it.  Unfortunately, the kids were to young to understand a lot of the references, but hey, we got a kick out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Brower</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Brower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott and Jim, I am looking forward to what you'll post later today.

LaMo, cool!

Christine N, there are many bands out there reworking some of old hymns and they're pretty good (of course some are not so good)

keep em' coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott and Jim, I am looking forward to what you&#8217;ll post later today.</p>
<p>LaMo, cool!</p>
<p>Christine N, there are many bands out there reworking some of old hymns and they&#8217;re pretty good (of course some are not so good)</p>
<p>keep em&#8217; coming!</p>
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		<title>By: Christine N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We've seen that already with some reworked hymns--the gems.</description>
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		<title>By: LaMo</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm going retro be revisiting Luther and the Reformation. Seems he was out to do the same thing- looking to the future by looking to the past. 

I know, I know. Sorry I went all brainy on you! Just think it is intriguing, the whole idea of the future of the Church being guided by what our "founding fathers" did. There is something huge there, I can just feel it. It sounds too cool for there not to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going retro be revisiting Luther and the Reformation. Seems he was out to do the same thing- looking to the future by looking to the past. </p>
<p>I know, I know. Sorry I went all brainy on you! Just think it is intriguing, the whole idea of the future of the Church being guided by what our &#8220;founding fathers&#8221; did. There is something huge there, I can just feel it. It sounds too cool for there not to be.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intersting thoughts.  We have not done it yet but it is something we can discuss in our creative meeting today.</description>
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