Comments on: Signs of Immaturity 1 (of 4) http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/ a leadership, technology, and innovation blog for pastors and church leaders Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:40:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Maturity in Leadership « Journey to Life http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-110174 Maturity in Leadership « Journey to Life Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:10:29 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-110174 [...] Signs of Immaturity I [...] [...] Signs of Immaturity I [...]

]]> By: Bill Simmons http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-108960 Bill Simmons Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:38:28 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-108960 This month I am celebrating my 20th year of active ministry. After the first five years, I thought I was "all that". At the end of another 5 years, I realized I didn't know anything. I've spent most of the last 10 years learning to "discover". The more I learn.....the more I learn there is to learn. This month I am celebrating my 20th year of active ministry. After the first five years, I thought I was “all that”. At the end of another 5 years, I realized I didn’t know anything. I’ve spent most of the last 10 years learning to “discover”. The more I learn…..the more I learn there is to learn.

]]> By: Sharyl Williams http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-108747 Sharyl Williams Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:02:32 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-108747 Craig; Love this thread. And let me say, as a 47 year old, maturity comes from the heart, not from age. I still find myself struggling sometimes with immaturity in different area's. I watched last weeks sermon and would be interested to hear back in three months how your challenge to people to test God and tithe worked out. I would love to know how many ask for their money back. And just to keep this on topic, I see tithing as a definite sign of maturity in Christ! Craig;
Love this thread. And let me say, as a 47 year old, maturity comes from the heart, not from age. I still find myself struggling sometimes with immaturity in different area’s.
I watched last weeks sermon and would be interested to hear back in three months how your challenge to people to test God and tithe worked out. I would love to know how many ask for their money back. And just to keep this on topic, I see tithing as a definite sign of maturity in Christ!

]]> By: Robin Meadows http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-108305 Robin Meadows Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:00:08 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-108305 The older I get the less I know I know.... It's FREEING! The older I get the less I know I know…. It’s FREEING!

]]> By: Bill http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-108281 Bill Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:12:42 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-108281 I wrote earlier that I was 55. My early years as a pastor was in the era that the pastor "knew it all" or "was to know it all." I had to learn the hard way I didn't. I am glad there are guys like Craig who remind us all that humility has no age limits and certainly no generation limits. "Walk humbly with God" especially you "youngsters" :) Us "oldsters" will do the same. I wrote earlier that I was 55. My early years as a pastor was in the era that the pastor “knew it all” or “was to know it all.” I had to learn the hard way I didn’t. I am glad there are guys like Craig who remind us all that humility has no age limits and certainly no generation limits. “Walk humbly with God” especially you “youngsters” :) Us “oldsters” will do the same.

]]> By: Scott Williams http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-108278 Scott Williams Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:08:55 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-108278 When I worked in correctiona and politics I had seasons of knowing everything. <blockquote>Since I have been in ministry, I know too much about absolutely nothing.</blockquote> When I worked in correctiona and politics I had seasons of knowing everything.

Since I have been in ministry, I know too much about absolutely nothing.

]]> By: princessjes http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-108095 princessjes Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:16:21 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-108095 That is a good and tough one... to allow others to speak into your life, without getting defensive, without explaining, (really it is just an excuse and trying to prove yourself) and without letting them know that you know all the secrets to life and living well...This is something I still catch myself doing-more frequently than I would like to admit. It all comes down to where you find your identity! If it is in Christ, it won't matter how much you know or don't know. That is a good and tough one… to allow others to speak into your life, without getting defensive, without explaining, (really it is just an excuse and trying to prove yourself) and without letting them know that you know all the secrets to life and living well…This is something I still catch myself doing-more frequently than I would like to admit. It all comes down to where you find your identity! If it is in Christ, it won’t matter how much you know or don’t know.

]]> By: Brian http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-108043 Brian Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:22:14 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-108043 I'll tell you what....I don't really like the statement, "well i have been doing this for 20 years"...that know it all mentality...but at the same time, I really don't know what in the world I'm doing so who am I to talk....I want to grow, ask questions, surround myself with successful ministry leaders...one thing though, I'll probably never have it "all" figured out! I’ll tell you what….I don’t really like the statement, “well i have been doing this for 20 years”…that know it all mentality…but at the same time, I really don’t know what in the world I’m doing so who am I to talk….I want to grow, ask questions, surround myself with successful ministry leaders…one thing though, I’ll probably never have it “all” figured out!

]]> By: Mike http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-108041 Mike Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:16:10 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-108041 Great post and I wish I had read it when i was younger and heeded the advice. Some of the ministries and ministers I criticized the most are know the most significant influences in my life...And some my best friends. God has a weird sense of humor. Great post and I wish I had read it when i was younger and heeded the advice. Some of the ministries and ministers I criticized the most are know the most significant influences in my life…And some my best friends. God has a weird sense of humor.

]]> By: Bobby Gruenewald http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-108022 Bobby Gruenewald Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:37:47 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-108022 Kevin, That all sounds exciting. If you haven't availed yourself of Brian Ahern's help...you should. Though he's not a tech guy...he should be able to give you several options. You've probably already connected with him...but if not, please do. Kevin,

That all sounds exciting.

If you haven’t availed yourself of Brian Ahern’s help…you should. Though he’s not a tech guy…he should be able to give you several options. You’ve probably already connected with him…but if not, please do.

]]> By: Kevin R. http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-108020 Kevin R. Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:31:20 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-108020 I knew I didn't know everything. I hope to follow the faithful example of my pastor of 25 years, and surround myself with wise people that will give me wise counsel. I am learning how much I don't know about technology as we are launching a Saturday night experience live using the internet campus. My little Associates Degree in IT/Networking is not much when it comes to this. You know when you get those internet errors that shut down Internet Explorer and then ask if you want to send a message or not? Whoever gets those messages anyway? Pray for us as we try to reach our community using LifeChurch.tv. I knew I didn’t know everything. I hope to follow the faithful example of my pastor of 25 years, and surround myself with wise people that will give me wise counsel. I am learning how much I don’t know about technology as we are launching a Saturday night experience live using the internet campus. My little Associates Degree in IT/Networking is not much when it comes to this. You know when you get those internet errors that shut down Internet Explorer and then ask if you want to send a message or not? Whoever gets those messages anyway? Pray for us as we try to reach our community using LifeChurch.tv.

]]> By: Jeremy http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-107996 Jeremy Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:42:14 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-107996 The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know. The more I learn, the more I realize I don’t know.

]]> By: Phil Thompson http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-107982 Phil Thompson Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:45:12 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-107982 I'll be 50 this month, gulp! It seems like my dad gets smarter the older i get, and he's been dead for 24 years! I’ll be 50 this month, gulp! It seems like my dad gets smarter the older i get, and he’s been dead for 24 years!

]]> By: Terrace Crawford http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-107963 Terrace Crawford Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:18:46 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-107963 Keep us humble Craig! Keep us humble! Keep us humble Craig! Keep us humble!

]]> By: DetzelPretzel http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-107940 DetzelPretzel Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:29:31 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-107940 MmHmm...ouch. I'm a 25 year old pastor and this one is close to home. I'm trying to keep my self-awareness up and my ability to listen and learn wide open. Thankfully...I've got a team around me who is willing to have tough conversations with me when they need to. Some of those Matthew 18 (if your brother sins against you...) ones hurt...but they bring such freedom. Can't wait to read the next 3 posts on this topic. MmHmm…ouch. I’m a 25 year old pastor and this one is close to home. I’m trying to keep my self-awareness up and my ability to listen and learn wide open.

Thankfully…I’ve got a team around me who is willing to have tough conversations with me when they need to. Some of those Matthew 18 (if your brother sins against you…) ones hurt…but they bring such freedom.

Can’t wait to read the next 3 posts on this topic.

]]> By: Bill http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-107928 Bill Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:41:27 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-107928 Is ti possible to be 25 with a 55 year old mind? I could only wish I had known at 25 what I now know at 55. God continues to teach-some easy and some hard lessons-no matter the age. Is ti possible to be 25 with a 55 year old mind? I could only wish I had known at 25 what I now know at 55. God continues to teach-some easy and some hard lessons-no matter the age.

]]> By: Anna http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-107901 Anna Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:53:51 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-107901 I used to be the same way... thought I knew it all, had no grace for anyone... Now I constantly pray that God would help keep a teachable spirit... I have so much to learn... and that's a good thing! I used to be the same way… thought I knew it all, had no grace for anyone… Now I constantly pray that God would help keep a teachable spirit… I have so much to learn… and that’s a good thing!

]]> By: Avery http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-107897 Avery Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:42:37 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-107897 Teachability is the toughest lesson I have ever had to learn ...but I am grateful to God for it... Teachability is the toughest lesson I have ever had to learn …but I am grateful to God for it…

]]> By: Jason http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-107890 Jason Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:38:33 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-107890 Cheers to the loving spouses who remind us that we don't know it all! Cheers to the loving spouses who remind us that we don’t know it all!

]]> By: Bryan http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/comment-page-1/#comment-107874 Bryan Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:10:40 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2008/02/04/signs-of-immaturity-1-of-4/#comment-107874 Pretty good post, Craig, but I already knew that. Pretty good post, Craig, but I already knew that.

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