Comments on: Give Up To Go Up 1 (of 5) http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/ a leadership, technology, and innovation blog for pastors and church leaders Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:37:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Top Swerve Posts of 2007 at LifeChurch.tv : swerve http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-84624 Top Swerve Posts of 2007 at LifeChurch.tv : swerve Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:09:00 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-84624 [...] Give Up To Go Up 1 (of 5) [...] [...] Give Up To Go Up 1 (of 5) [...]

]]> By: Mike http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-42425 Mike Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:35:40 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-42425 Craig, great insights on this fact of life. I first read this in Maxwell’s book 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership (Law 18). We all face this challenge and need to recognize it for all the reasons you noted. A couple of things that have been a help to me is learning to give clear expectations and boundaries when giving up control. I enjoyed The Leadership Pipeline by Ram Charan, Stephen Drotter & James Noel it was a great read on recognizing when and what changes I needed to make in handing over controls. For me personally this goes to the core of who's in control. The productive get it done me or God? I get to choose each day, each moment of each day and find that balance of being a servant leader and using the gifts and talents that God have given me. Craig, great insights on this fact of life. I first read this in Maxwell’s book 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership (Law 18). We all face this challenge and need to recognize it for all the reasons you noted. A couple of things that have been a help to me is learning to give clear expectations and boundaries when giving up control. I enjoyed The Leadership Pipeline by Ram Charan, Stephen Drotter & James Noel it was a great read on recognizing when and what changes I needed to make in handing over controls. For me personally this goes to the core of who’s in control. The productive get it done me or God? I get to choose each day, each moment of each day and find that balance of being a servant leader and using the gifts and talents that God have given me.

]]> By: Ryan Hukill http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-41146 Ryan Hukill Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:02:03 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-41146 Wow Craig, you've done it again. You've made me positively uncomfortable. Giving up control is an issue I'm facing right now as I'm beginning to recognize some walls that have been built between me and my oldest son. These walls are the product of my controlling, rather than allowing him to grow into the leader I want him to be. I think your post here applies to many different fronts in our personal lives, business lives and our spiritual lives. Thanks for opening my eyes a little bit more. Wow Craig, you’ve done it again. You’ve made me positively uncomfortable. Giving up control is an issue I’m facing right now as I’m beginning to recognize some walls that have been built between me and my oldest son. These walls are the product of my controlling, rather than allowing him to grow into the leader I want him to be. I think your post here applies to many different fronts in our personal lives, business lives and our spiritual lives. Thanks for opening my eyes a little bit more.

]]> By: Kirk http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-41067 Kirk Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:16:33 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-41067 Ever met someone that is obviously led by the spirit. The way they do relationships, ministry, participate in sports, etc...They are attractively unusual, in a way that makes people wonder what motivates them. Life is not about them...they are in remote control. Then you realize, they are one of His, and the One holding the remote is glorified. Ever met someone that is obviously led by the spirit. The way they do relationships, ministry, participate in sports, etc…They are attractively unusual, in a way that makes people wonder what motivates them. Life is not about them…they are in remote control. Then you realize, they are one of His, and the One holding the remote is glorified.

]]> By: Hardly Normal | Some great posts http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-40963 Hardly Normal | Some great posts Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:16:47 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-40963 [...] Check it out here! So far posts one and two are my favs [...] [...] Check it out here! So far posts one and two are my favs [...]

]]> By: samluce.com http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-40822 samluce.com Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:36:25 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-40822 <strong>Give it up. For Christ’s Sake.</strong> Just read a great post by Craig Groeschel. It is invaluable for leader but especially children’s workers. In children’s ministry you need so many volunteers to accomplish everything and if you don’t learn how to give up control you wi... Give it up. For Christ’s Sake.

Just read a great post by Craig Groeschel. It is invaluable for leader but especially children’s workers. In children’s ministry you need so many volunteers to accomplish everything and if you don’t learn how to give up control you wi…

]]> By: Libby http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-40111 Libby Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:18:02 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-40111 Frankly, I try to control myself. I want to feel in control, appear in control, and actually just have it all together. I have seen this struggle affecting all kinds of relationships. Being vulnerable is one of the biggest things He's challenging me with right now. I was totally convicted by the statement from this weekend's message - 'the be independent is to be non-Christian'. I used to consider myself as an independent person. I work ever day to surrender all control and be dependent on Him. Frankly, I try to control myself. I want to feel in control, appear in control, and actually just have it all together. I have seen this struggle affecting all kinds of relationships. Being vulnerable is one of the biggest things He’s challenging me with right now. I was totally convicted by the statement from this weekend’s message - ‘the be independent is to be non-Christian’. I used to consider myself as an independent person. I work ever day to surrender all control and be dependent on Him.

]]> By: jeffkapusta.com » Blog Archive » Give up to Go up http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-40103 jeffkapusta.com » Blog Archive » Give up to Go up Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:56:35 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-40103 [...] Read part one and two. Posted in Leadership [...] [...] Read part one and two. Posted in Leadership [...]

]]> By: Daniel D http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39838 Daniel D Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:21:21 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39838 Great post. I think failure to "give up" also rolls back to a need to be right. I can't let you do it because I am the only one who can do it right. Great post. I think failure to “give up” also rolls back to a need to be right. I can’t let you do it because I am the only one who can do it right.

]]> By: Anna http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39790 Anna Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:55:24 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39790 It's so true! When I first started at Life, I was proud of myself for having everything under control... because of that our student ministry wasn't able to grow past 100 or so... now, I've given A LOT of the authority and responsibility away to my leaders and we're already seeing results! SWITCH is gonna blow up! Being "in control" also denotes faithlessness... if we're truely putting our faith in Christ, we're already out of control... It’s so true! When I first started at Life, I was proud of myself for having everything under control… because of that our student ministry wasn’t able to grow past 100 or so… now, I’ve given A LOT of the authority and responsibility away to my leaders and we’re already seeing results! SWITCH is gonna blow up!

Being “in control” also denotes faithlessness… if we’re truely putting our faith in Christ, we’re already out of control…

]]> By: Marcin Mizak http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39763 Marcin Mizak Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:47:35 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39763 "Growing leaders learn to delegate authority, not just responsibility." I like it. I also like 'give up and go up'. There's a saying 'Hold all things lightly and nothing tightly'. It seems to me that it fits the discussion. I think I recently cought myself controlling my wife. I was trying to find or receive too much vindication or confirmation in her eyes and it didn't work well for me. I think it's a form of control, but I have to think longer about it. Anyway, I need to surrender this something. Again, referring to Sarah's posts, it's great to be a servant. Servants want to control less. Or maybe the word 'want' is not part of their lexicon. “Growing leaders learn to delegate authority, not just responsibility.” I like it. I also like ‘give up and go up’. There’s a saying ‘Hold all things lightly and nothing tightly’. It seems to me that it fits the discussion.

I think I recently cought myself controlling my wife. I was trying to find or receive too much vindication or confirmation in her eyes and it didn’t work well for me. I think it’s a form of control, but I have to think longer about it. Anyway, I need to surrender this something.

Again, referring to Sarah’s posts, it’s great to be a servant. Servants want to control less. Or maybe the word ‘want’ is not part of their lexicon.

]]> By: Dale Schaeffer http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39760 Dale Schaeffer Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:39:08 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39760 Craig...You are a freakin' inspiration...I can't help but be challenged by your ministry and what you've allowed God to do through you and your team. I'm a church planter at the point of needing to let go of more and more, and it is a major challenge. But I'm needing to let go of all kinds of things: control, my too small understanding of God, my fear of failure, my need for approval by others, and my need for security and safety. We've had a great first 2 years, but God is really streaching my leadership ability in our second year. Thanks for sharing your journey with the rest of us! Craig…You are a freakin’ inspiration…I can’t help but be challenged by your ministry and what you’ve allowed God to do through you and your team.

I’m a church planter at the point of needing to let go of more and more, and it is a major challenge. But I’m needing to let go of all kinds of things: control, my too small understanding of God, my fear of failure, my need for approval by others, and my need for security and safety.

We’ve had a great first 2 years, but God is really streaching my leadership ability in our second year. Thanks for sharing your journey with the rest of us!

]]> By: John B. http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39748 John B. Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:08:01 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39748 "People who fight to stay in control might attract followers, but they rarely attract leaders." To grow an effective ministry you must attract leaders with the desire to submit to the God Given Vision and the ability to make it Their Own Vision. If you have people who are afraid to make it their own vision it's because they are afraid of criticism or disapointment. You can never draw that Gift or Talent out of someone when they don't have freedom to make it Their Own Vision, even if it fails(there is always the chance it will be more successful than if you did it). Give up the Method to make room for greater Ideas, Talent and Success. “People who fight to stay in control might attract followers, but they rarely attract leaders.”

To grow an effective ministry you must attract leaders with the desire to submit to the God Given Vision and the ability to make it Their Own Vision. If you have people who are afraid to make it their own vision it’s because they are afraid of criticism or disapointment.

You can never draw that Gift or Talent out of someone when they don’t have freedom to make it Their Own Vision, even if it fails(there is always the chance it will be more successful than if you did it).

Give up the Method to make room for greater Ideas, Talent and Success.

]]> By: Craig Groeschel http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39711 Craig Groeschel Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:45:58 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39711 Scott, You probably should ask your team. That could be a great learning experience. Jason, Either way... control or perfectionist syndrome... it is something you'll want to grow through. Hope your new church is going great. Scott, You probably should ask your team. That could be a great learning experience.

Jason, Either way… control or perfectionist syndrome… it is something you’ll want to grow through. Hope your new church is going great.

]]> By: Jarret http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39702 Jarret Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:22:06 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39702 Great topic, I play on a softball team with one of the guys who is a part of our church plant, and we had a conversation last night about this very topic. I look forward to reading insights from everyone. Great topic, I play on a softball team with one of the guys who is a part of our church plant, and we had a conversation last night about this very topic. I look forward to reading insights from everyone.

]]> By: Jason Curlee http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39696 Jason Curlee Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:43:50 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39696 For me...I have a hard time giving up things that I do with excellence knowing that for a time they won't be. As we have planted our new church I find myself doing many of the details that others could be doing because they may not do them as well. I have always had a hard time with this. I'm not sure if that is a control issue as much as it is a perfectionist syndrome. For me…I have a hard time giving up things that I do with excellence knowing that for a time they won’t be.

As we have planted our new church I find myself doing many of the details that others could be doing because they may not do them as well. I have always had a hard time with this.

I’m not sure if that is a control issue as much as it is a perfectionist syndrome.

]]> By: neeraj http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39692 neeraj Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:56:48 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39692 after being one of the only staff people in my organization for 2 years, we now have a staff of more than 4 amazing individuals. In the process of transitioning responsibilities I am realizing that what I need to give up is a "my way is the best way" mentality... after being one of the only staff people in my organization for 2 years, we now have a staff of more than 4 amazing individuals. In the process of transitioning responsibilities I am realizing that what I need to give up is a “my way is the best way” mentality…

]]> By: Heidi http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39691 Heidi Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:50:36 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39691 gulp.... Safety~ I'm so with you Anne Reputation~ No doubt! I know better than God dilemma? Those would be my top 3. gulp….

Safety~ I’m so with you Anne
Reputation~ No doubt!
I know better than God dilemma?

Those would be my top 3.

]]> By: Scott Williams http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39681 Scott Williams Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:06:08 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39681 Let me ask my team this question at our staff meeting this morning and I'll get back to you. lol Let me ask my team this question at our staff meeting this morning and I’ll get back to you. lol

]]> By: Anne Jackson http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/comment-page-1/#comment-39678 Anne Jackson Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:02:57 +0000 http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/09/10/give-up-to-go-up-1-of-5/#comment-39678 reputation....safety.... reputation….safety….

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