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	<title>Comments on: Guest Blog: Kendra Golden</title>
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		<title>By: Hot links &#187; Blog Archive &#187; new fishing info 380</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/06/28/guest-blog-kendra-golden-2/comment-page-1/#comment-153848</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot links &#187; Blog Archive &#187; new fishing info 380</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 08:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hot links &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fishing 380</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/06/28/guest-blog-kendra-golden-2/comment-page-1/#comment-153847</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot links &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fishing 380</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 08:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marcin Mizak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcin Mizak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrie,
in answer to your question: "What do you do at your church to challenge parents to help their kids grow spiritually without alienating the children that don’t have any spiritual support at home?"
Well, it's not much but I recently opened a lending library". There are some things for children there so a child / a parent may come and lend something home and then simply "push the button". Parents don't realize what worthy resources there are there for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie,<br />
in answer to your question: &#8220;What do you do at your church to challenge parents to help their kids grow spiritually without alienating the children that don’t have any spiritual support at home?&#8221;<br />
Well, it&#8217;s not much but I recently opened a lending library&#8221;. There are some things for children there so a child / a parent may come and lend something home and then simply &#8220;push the button&#8221;. Parents don&#8217;t realize what worthy resources there are there for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kidologist.com &#187; How Important Are Kids... Really?</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/06/28/guest-blog-kendra-golden-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23562</link>
		<dc:creator>Kidologist.com &#187; How Important Are Kids... Really?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 05:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Most churches claim to value children&#8230; but few actually do where it counts. A friend recently sent me to this blog post, and I thought it was fantastic, so I am re-posting a part of it here for feedback. (italics is quoted) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Most churches claim to value children&#8230; but few actually do where it counts. A friend recently sent me to this blog post, and I thought it was fantastic, so I am re-posting a part of it here for feedback. (italics is quoted) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working in kids ministry, I always question are we reaching the kids who have no parental support spiritually at home yet at the same time challenging parents who do know Christ to raise their children to know God personally and help them grow spiritually. If you swing one way, you alienate the kids who don't have the spiritual support at home yet if you don't challenge parents you have what Kendra called "entertained kids" and parents that assume that it is the church's sole responsibility to help their child grow spiritually. Any thoughts on how to balance this? What do you do at your church to challenge parents to help their kids grow spiritually without alienating the children that don't have any spiritual support at home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working in kids ministry, I always question are we reaching the kids who have no parental support spiritually at home yet at the same time challenging parents who do know Christ to raise their children to know God personally and help them grow spiritually. If you swing one way, you alienate the kids who don&#8217;t have the spiritual support at home yet if you don&#8217;t challenge parents you have what Kendra called &#8220;entertained kids&#8221; and parents that assume that it is the church&#8217;s sole responsibility to help their child grow spiritually. Any thoughts on how to balance this? What do you do at your church to challenge parents to help their kids grow spiritually without alienating the children that don&#8217;t have any spiritual support at home?</p>
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		<title>By: Marcin Mizak</title>
		<link>http://swerve.lifechurch.tv/2007/06/28/guest-blog-kendra-golden-2/comment-page-1/#comment-23291</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcin Mizak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Kendra. I needed this message, and in particular perhaps this question, "Do you believe it’s the parents’ job to lead their kids to Christ, while they assume it’s the church’s?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Kendra. I needed this message, and in particular perhaps this question, &#8220;Do you believe it’s the parents’ job to lead their kids to Christ, while they assume it’s the church’s?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Silliman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Silliman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee,

I love the way LifeChurch handles decisions for Christ. They ask people who want to make a decision to raise their hand boldly. The speaker acknowledges as many people as he can by looking at the person eyeball to eyeball and welcomes them into the family of God. I like it because in so many churches it's usually done with "every eye closed and no one looking around" so as not to embarass the individual. I'm not sure why it's gotta be such a secret?  After the show of hands the entire church leads these individuals into a prayer. Very motivating and encouraging for the body!

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee,</p>
<p>I love the way LifeChurch handles decisions for Christ. They ask people who want to make a decision to raise their hand boldly. The speaker acknowledges as many people as he can by looking at the person eyeball to eyeball and welcomes them into the family of God. I like it because in so many churches it&#8217;s usually done with &#8220;every eye closed and no one looking around&#8221; so as not to embarass the individual. I&#8217;m not sure why it&#8217;s gotta be such a secret?  After the show of hands the entire church leads these individuals into a prayer. Very motivating and encouraging for the body!</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post. I am the chior and I hear you preaching. Those are some excellent questions to ask. Do we really truly value kids or are they and means to a different end.

I did a post about this a couple of weeks ago based on an article I came accross on the Willow Creek website about "Do children really matter."

http://www.willowcreek.com/wcanews/story.asp?id=WN07I22007

http://samluce.wordpress.com/2007/06/06/actual-values-vs-stated-values/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. I am the chior and I hear you preaching. Those are some excellent questions to ask. Do we really truly value kids or are they and means to a different end.</p>
<p>I did a post about this a couple of weeks ago based on an article I came accross on the Willow Creek website about &#8220;Do children really matter.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.willowcreek.com/wcanews/story.asp?id=WN07I22007" rel="nofollow">http://www.willowcreek.com/wcanews/story.asp?id=WN07I22007</a></p>
<p><a href="http://samluce.wordpress.com/2007/06/06/actual-values-vs-stated-values/" rel="nofollow">http://samluce.wordpress.com/2007/06/06/actual-values-vs-stated-values/</a></p>
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		<title>By: lee Cummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee Cummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really appreciate your passion for children. I am hoping this is the proper forum to ask an unrelated question but here goes: you mentioned indirectly the call to committment at the end of your services. I was wondering how Craig (or any of you for that matter) handle "altar calls". Do you ask them to raise their hands, fill out a card, walk to the front, go in a dark, smoke filled room or recite a prayer? This is a major talking point in our staff right now about how we can improve how we do this very important moment. Maybe it would be a good topic to launch into.

thanks again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really appreciate your passion for children. I am hoping this is the proper forum to ask an unrelated question but here goes: you mentioned indirectly the call to committment at the end of your services. I was wondering how Craig (or any of you for that matter) handle &#8220;altar calls&#8221;. Do you ask them to raise their hands, fill out a card, walk to the front, go in a dark, smoke filled room or recite a prayer? This is a major talking point in our staff right now about how we can improve how we do this very important moment. Maybe it would be a good topic to launch into.</p>
<p>thanks again</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my few years in children's ministry I have noticed it is a strange world.  The most common thing I see is leaders who verbally say the children's ministry is important, but never are involved in any way.  They want to hire a staff person and then forget about it forever, only to be involved in financial decisions. 

Also, an enjoyable children's ministry is a draw to families; would you attend a church your kids hated and got nothing from?  I do not see anything wrong with that.  If the parents  are not drawn into a relationship with Christ, all we do will probably be lost by the home experience. However, I agree that attracting families for numerical growth cannot be our primary goal.  If there is no substance behind it all a ceiling will quickly be hit. 

It is nice to see the kids ministry get some love on here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my few years in children&#8217;s ministry I have noticed it is a strange world.  The most common thing I see is leaders who verbally say the children&#8217;s ministry is important, but never are involved in any way.  They want to hire a staff person and then forget about it forever, only to be involved in financial decisions. </p>
<p>Also, an enjoyable children&#8217;s ministry is a draw to families; would you attend a church your kids hated and got nothing from?  I do not see anything wrong with that.  If the parents  are not drawn into a relationship with Christ, all we do will probably be lost by the home experience. However, I agree that attracting families for numerical growth cannot be our primary goal.  If there is no substance behind it all a ceiling will quickly be hit. </p>
<p>It is nice to see the kids ministry get some love on here!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom E. Snyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom E. Snyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! To paraphrase Acts 2:37:

When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to [Kendra], "...what shall we do?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! To paraphrase Acts 2:37:</p>
<p>When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to [Kendra], &#8220;&#8230;what shall we do?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lori Eilers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori Eilers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are speaking my language!  As children's pastor in a theater church, I face lots of challenges but they are just different than other's...not better or worse.  I'm thankful the one challenge I don't have is a pastor that's not behind me a 110%.  He does all he can to make my job easier and honestly thinks children's ministry is top priority.  He's stretching me to be a better administrator and leader.  I in turn am trying to equip our parents to be the spiritual leaders of their homes through take-home family devotions each week and a parenting class we offer as a Life Group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are speaking my language!  As children&#8217;s pastor in a theater church, I face lots of challenges but they are just different than other&#8217;s&#8230;not better or worse.  I&#8217;m thankful the one challenge I don&#8217;t have is a pastor that&#8217;s not behind me a 110%.  He does all he can to make my job easier and honestly thinks children&#8217;s ministry is top priority.  He&#8217;s stretching me to be a better administrator and leader.  I in turn am trying to equip our parents to be the spiritual leaders of their homes through take-home family devotions each week and a parenting class we offer as a Life Group.</p>
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		<title>By: effective children&#8217;s ministry &#171; Michelle Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>effective children&#8217;s ministry &#171; Michelle Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] effective children&#8217;s&#160;ministry Posted in children's ministry, leadership, church by childmin on the June 28th, 2007   This was posted by Kendra Golden over at lifechurch.tv blog. Thought it had some good points: The Kids Down the Hall [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] effective children&#8217;s&nbsp;ministry Posted in children&#8217;s ministry, leadership, church by childmin on the June 28th, 2007   This was posted by Kendra Golden over at lifechurch.tv blog. Thought it had some good points: The Kids Down the Hall [...]</p>
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